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octagon

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2021, 03:00:33 pm »
McDermott challenging the catch in the 4th quarter of a preseason game he's up by 29 in the 4th is kinda funny.

davebear

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2021, 03:09:03 pm »
I think Adams and Johnson replace Ridley and Wims

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2021, 03:15:33 pm »
Fields is getting killed.  I know he needs reps, but he is going to get really hurt.  I look forward to the day Matt Jagy gets fired.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2021, 03:21:01 pm »
Well any optimism I had for this coming season kind of evaporated.  I forgot Kmet didnt play today either.  Not sure the starters who didnt play would make that much of a difference.  I know Jagy doesnt like to let things on, especially in the preseason, but many your team got spanked, and badly today.  How about callilng plays that you can execute, and execute them well?  Its going to be a loooong season.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2021, 03:36:33 pm »
Sorry I called it on the Mitchel Bowl. FWIW this preseason game

1. Nagy as a playcaller sucks ass. Nothing new here. He may be  working on getting players looks but there appears to be no push to actually do anything this team does well consistently....
2. Anyone who cannot see that Fields gives a chance behind that travesty of an OLine is fooling themselves.  Conspiracy Theory: Nagy's plan to start Fields is working.....
3. I said it last year, but why is Mike Furrey still coaching receivers to not beat man coverage. Stand up guy that he was, he was a Lions player. Once a loser, always loser...
4. Bears signed Dalton and lost 2 special teams guys at least as a result. Pace typical create a hole that wasn't there by signing the wrong guy for THIS offense (Glennnon, anyone ?) and costing good ST (at least). And the signing of "Robber" Quinn is just sad......
5. That said Bills are a good team. Was hoping they would've made the SB and think they would've taken Arians team to the woodshed with a better Oline. Good power game. Decent D (thanks Les Frazier).

As usualt, initial reactions. Milage may vary. On to watch the Packers/Jets...


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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2021, 03:59:52 pm »
Yeah it was disappointing but I’ve learned not to make much of preseason games.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2021, 04:37:44 pm »
Marqui Christian had a good game. Trevis Gibson another good game. Nice to see Thomas Graham make a play, he didn't do anything last week. CB depth not there.

Special teams terrible again. We miss Sherrick McManis.

Adams & James solid again. WR depth is awful.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2021, 04:40:25 pm »
And Nagy is still an idiot.
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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2021, 05:14:31 am »
With a little more (sober) time to digest the game a little, while there many reasons for pessimism, but also some reasons for optimism as well. So I'll take both and run with them:

1. (Optimist) Its only preseason. Coaches want looks and do not really game plan. (Pessimist) Nagy and his offense was in mid-season form- no rythm, everyone making mistakes. Nagy as a playcaller is like a like a deaf man conducting an orchestra.

2. (Optimist) Well, of all three phases, it looks the the offense is the only one that hasn't gotten worse. (Pessimist) Well, of all three phases, it looks the the offense hasn't gotten any better (Pessimist).

3. (Optimist) Dline depth looks good. (Pessimist) Dline depth will be needed because the starting front cannot seem to play conistently or stay healthy.

4. (Optimist) Desai looked pissed on the sideline with the performance of his defense. Maybe that will translate to action to correct the lack of effort or result. (Pessimist) Desai's "roll over and rub my belly" defense made him look lost and clueless on the sidelines like someone stole his lunch money- and was powerless to do anything about it. Very Mel Tucker-esque.

5. (Optimist) Fields took a nasty hit on a play and bounced back. Indeed, he learned from and when he play happened again and deftly avoided the hit. (Pessimist) Fields took a nasty hit. Afterward he appeared a bit hurt. The Bears are 1 hit away from having a Dalton/Foles QBed team *shudder*

6. (Optimist) Special teams are working out a bunch of guys that will probably be on the street. Nothing to worry about there. (Pessimist) Special teams coverage and returns suck ass and will cost games if it is not fixed pronto.

7. (Optimist) All the things wrong so far can be fixed before the season starts- false starts, missed tackles, missed assignments. (Pessimist) From what we've seen so far, which phases has this team improved since last year ? In the NFL, if you are not getting better, you are getting worse...

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hibernationsuxs

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2021, 07:22:41 am »
Frankly our coaching sucks!  It has sucked for years!  Nagy was riding on Vic F coat tails the first year.  Since Vic left our tackling sucks or blocking sucks, we are soft.  We start every season out soft and it seems to bite us as we try to contend later in the year for a playoff spot.

This team has a lot of talent.  My buddies who watch a lot of football but are fans of other teams even see it.  They say Nagy wasted what should have been a decent run for the Bears.  I have to agree.

A couple of positives.  The 7th round DT looks like he can really contribute and probably makes Goldman replaceable next year.  I personally am tired of Goldman's attitude on the Covid thing and it shows that leadership is not leading, the players do what they want.

Borom looks like a future tackle for us.  If/when Jenkins gets healthy our Oline depth will be the best I can remember in a long time.

Our LB depth is the best its been in a long time.

I think Jesse James is making Jimmy G. expendable, to bad we could not trade him for a starting RT or LT tackle or starting WR.

I believe no Hicks, Graham, Dalton, Goldman, Quinn (not sure if possible with his contract) next year which would free up massive amounts of salary cap.  We need to sign ARob long term, WR depth not good.  Robinson on long term deal will free up some salary cap as well.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2021, 11:34:06 am »
One game doesn't make or break a team or a player, especially preseason.. But I have to laugh my as$ off at Trubisky looking like a true NFL QB and making the Bears D look like the JV squad. I felt all along that Mitch wasn't the problem. Maybe that was Mitch's superbowl moment, I don't know. I think once again the Bears are incapable of seeing what and who are the problem.

Question is, will this team be ready to play when the first real game is played?
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dallasbear2

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2021, 11:21:53 pm »

Defense:  Bears had backup ILBs in there  the whole game.  Mack played a series or two - same with Hicks.  Quinn is still a question mark but this year they have 2 or 3 guys that can back him up.  No Goldman but not only is Tonga a beast so is Pennel.  Not sure they can keep all 3.

Biggest concern is still nickel and CB.   Vildor looks respectable but still not sure who will emerge at nickel.  Has Trufant played in the preseason?

Offensively.  LT and RT are scary bad.  Even one of my favorite Bars had an uneven game.  Daniels should be in there next weekend.  Need to see more of Borom - wasn't that impressed, but that was his first action in the NFL and most likely at LT.  Guess we have one game to evaluate him and Peters next week - default is Wilkinson.

I like Adams - makes the spectacular catch but then he doesn't make the un-spectacular.  WR choices will surprise many.

STs is a cluster...Herbert looks decent and Daz looks the part but didn't have many holes.  Can he get some action at WR?

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2021, 01:10:44 am »
I wouldn’t be surprised if Borom plays a lot of LT  this season.  He looks more athletic than most of the other linemen from what little there was to see.

Wilkerson is dreadfully slow and I have no expectations of Peters staying healthy.

Wilkerson was bulrush into the qb a couple of times.

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2021, 01:50:18 am »
Our OL will be our downfall.  again.

You can't get good QB play with a bad Oline.

I think our WR/TE will be ok as long as the top guys stay healthy.  Robinson hasn't played and Mooney and Kmet have played very little.

If the Oline can play NFL average I think our offense will be OK.  I have no confidence our Oline will be NFL average or anywhere close.

On defense our secondary is our weak spot.  I think we will be Ok as long as our Dline is getting pressure but if they don't we will give up a ton of yards and big plays through the air. 
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davebear

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Re: Today's Game 2021
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2021, 03:41:28 am »
Yeah I’m concerned about Fields having  catastrophic injury with that line.

That hit he took was a wake up call