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JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #825 on: January 16, 2023, 04:18:57 pm »
Faster reads/releases and taking the plays that are there would be a nice start.....

 Having a solid OFFENSIVE LINE pretty much guarantee's that giving him the time.

Grizzlybear34

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #826 on: January 17, 2023, 04:25:54 am »
Comparing Eberflus to Dabol or Pederson, isn't a fair comparison when taking into account the entire organization.  Jacksonville was coming off of its second, 1st overall pick and drafting at the top of each round.  On the climb.  Dabol came into a better defense than the parts we had left, he definitely deserves credit for his work with Daniel Jones and the offense.  Eberflus came into a horrid salary cap position, aging veterans on defense, and with a GM driven to correct that situation in one season.  Mission accomplished. 

We should strive to follow Jacksonville's path, which might mean two years until we are in that position.  So in year 3, I would expect to see the best of what Eberflus has to offer.  Fields will have had next season to show continued growth, two drafts and FA classed under our belts.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #827 on: January 17, 2023, 10:13:25 am »
Getting rid of Mack and Quinn were ok IMO but the Smith deal wasn't beneficial to the team. He still has many years ahead of him....
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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #828 on: January 17, 2023, 10:15:14 am »
I just don't get the warm and fuzzies with respect to the Bears at this time. It could go in a terrific or terrible way, but if past history is a (sometimes inconsistent) guide, it will not end well. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.....

And watching the game last night with Manning and Bruschi totally dissing the Bears is where this franchise is right now. **** them both. But this francise is a borderline punchline franchise. Its on the precipice of becoming fully irrelevant in the modern NFL except as a joke.....
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chifaninva

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #829 on: January 17, 2023, 11:09:54 am »
Heck, really we don't even know if we have our QB of the future. Fields is exciting to watch, but if exciting equates to 3-14 you can have it. Not at all blaming everything on Fields, but he is the QB..

There is so much to fix on this team. I would try to add a reliable (or two) players on the o line. Grab a receiver, we  have Mooney and Claypool. Everything else goes to defense. We had absolutely no pass rush. We need at least one top corner.  Do they retain Jackson? Is he worth adding a two year extension, and reducing his cap hit?

We need the offense and Fields to improve, with that said, we need the Defense to take a mighty step forward.. This better be a darn good offseason..
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dallasbear

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #830 on: January 17, 2023, 11:35:20 am »

As much as I covet Anderson, I think Poles will trade down. 

Bottom line, Bears need 2 or 3 O-line starters and 3 maybe 4 D-line.  CB and WR need to be addressed as well as linebacker.

If some of those holes can be addressed with quality FAs then that may lessen the trade down need somewhat.  But at least try to do a trade down with Houston and get what you can get.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #831 on: January 17, 2023, 12:55:35 pm »
Surely thereís going to be a big offer from the Colts.

Iíll bet the Kentucky QB shoots up draft boards this offseason. Heís the only bigger guy cannon arm who played with little support.  The Cardinals could trade out of 3 for someone wanting him leaving the Bears at 4 with both Carter and Anderson on the board.

If you run down all the teams in the league and ask if they want David Carr or Garapolo, or trade up.

dallasbear

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #832 on: January 17, 2023, 02:02:16 pm »

I hope the Cardinals trade down - and the QBs go 1, 2, 3.   And Bears are sitting at 4 with a load of draft picks.

Otherwise the Cards will probably take Anderson or possibly Carter if Anderson is gone.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #833 on: January 18, 2023, 09:40:25 am »
I really don't see a scenario where the Bears don't trade down. They're kind of in a position where they must.....

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #834 on: January 18, 2023, 10:39:54 am »
Agree. One generational player (non-QB) on this team does not change the trajectory of the team. They need  NFL caliber players at almost all levels and positions. There are so many holes in the boat to plug......

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #835 on: January 18, 2023, 10:47:10 am »
Agree. One generational player (non-QB) on this team does not change the trajectory of the team. They need  NFL caliber players at almost all levels and positions. There are so many holes in the boat to plug......

I think we all agree BUT what if Anderson is the next Myles Garrett or Bosa?  A lot depends on how the Bears grade him out in comparison to others (i.e. Carter and the other DEs), what gets offered for the #1, and what they can sign in free agency.

Bears swapping with Houston is a no-brainer but swapping with anyone else is not.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #836 on: January 18, 2023, 10:59:33 am »
I think we all agree BUT what if Anderson is the next Myles Garrett or Bosa?  A lot depends on how the Bears grade him out in comparison to others (i.e. Carter and the other DEs), what gets offered for the #1, and what they can sign in free agency.

Bears swapping with Houston is a no-brainer but swapping with anyone else is not.

Thats my opinion too. With #1 we control the draft. I dont want to give the draft away, nor the control. And if I trade with Houston I better get #12 in the trade too. That way I guarantee I get the defensive player I want

dallasbear

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #837 on: January 18, 2023, 11:24:16 am »

I just don't see how moving one spot, even from #2 to the #1 spot, would cost the #12 pick.   But if Houston is in love with ONE guy and believe the Colts are also I guess anything can happen.

That would be sweet to get #2 and #12!  Anderson and Skoronski or one of the other OTs from OSU/Georgia.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #838 on: January 18, 2023, 11:41:25 am »
I just don't see how moving one spot, even from #2 to the #1 spot, would cost the #12 pick.   But if Houston is in love with ONE guy and believe the Colts are also I guess anything can happen.

That would be sweet to get #2 and #12!  Anderson and Skoronski or one of the other OTs from OSU/Georgia.

1 and 53 for 2 and 12 would be more realistic, although still slanted in the Bears' favor.

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Re: Today's Game 2022
« Reply #839 on: January 18, 2023, 11:55:51 am »
In my book, its called desperate. There have been a lot of desperate teams in the past  that have exceeded that draft trade formula. If Houston really fears the Colts jump ahead of them for "their desired QB", they will overpay. Personally, I wouldnt trade out of #1 if it meant I lose out of the best deffensive player to Arizona @ 3. You better be clearly overpaid.