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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2015, 05:07:23 pm »
Orioles call up Junior Lake.

Think Lake has a small, but possible, chance to evolve into a solid regular eventually. Athletic and taking forever to learn the game of baseball but think he has a chance.

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« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2015, 06:24:01 pm »
Rangers trade for Mike Napoli.

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« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2015, 07:19:17 pm »
Orioles call up Junior Lake.

Think Lake has a small, but possible, chance to evolve into a solid regular eventually. Athletic and taking forever to learn the game of baseball but think he has a chance.

Yep.

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« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2015, 10:32:06 pm »





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« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2015, 12:06:36 am »
Astros getting Perez from the Dbacks for a minor leaguer.

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« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2015, 02:43:21 pm »
Good article by Neyer.  I'm not sure why you found it "surprising".

When Bill James first started writing abstracts back in '80s I became an instant convert.  Over the years sabermetrics has ballooned. Now...it seems that sabermetrics is the end all...each new development taken as gospel. Not at all what James planned.

Like most prophets, he wouldn't recognize a modern religion.

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« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2015, 03:45:15 pm »
Good article by Neyer.  I'm not sure why you found it "surprising".

When Bill James first started writing abstracts back in '80s I became an instant convert.  Over the years sabermetrics has ballooned. Now...it seems that sabermetrics is the end all...each new development taken as gospel. Not at all what James planned.

Like most prophets, he wouldn't recognize a modern religion.

The "gospel" component are the outsiders--websites, bloggers, posters, etc. Way too much rigidity.

The insiders--the younger, cutting edge, educated folks who grew up reading James and others--are a different sort. They tend to actually interact with a more diverse population and most are inherently skeptical of dogma and are comfortable changing on the fly when circumstances warrant. Cubs leadership know all the sabernetric stuff too but hard to listen to them and conclude anything is gospel to them.

Think all of this is useful, even the dogma. Just have to separate the wheat from the chaff. This has been true of every advance in every discipline, ever. Skepticism is the foundation of the James Abstracts too. Skepticism permeates almost every page. The New Dogma warrants skepticism too. No different than anything else.

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« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2015, 04:01:14 pm »
I always thought James was, among other things, the original "mythbuster". He was skeptical...of conventional wisdom...of established legend...and almost anything else that was taken for granted. He was also very skeptical of his own work. 

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« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2015, 04:24:02 pm »
Right. Some folks think of James (and other contemporaries, Craig Wright, Pete Palmer, etc) as mostly about stats but really about examining the mostly unexplored status quo and dogma.

Amazing how all this now part of the game. A fantastically good thing.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2015, 08:23:06 pm »
Orioles released Bud Norris. Signing him to a minor league deal and seeing if they can straighten him out wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd still like an improvement over Russell out of the bullpen too. 

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« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2015, 12:39:59 am »

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« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2015, 03:14:26 am »
Marlins now have worst record in baseball---one game worse than Phillies.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2015, 07:45:11 am »
Jose Fernandez is headed back to Miami with shoulder tightness.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #74 on: August 09, 2015, 07:24:29 pm »