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Aside from some Cubs fans, I wonder how many teams have fans who look at winning in post-season as iceing on the cake--and emphasize about a nice regular season and how much they enjoyed rooting for their favorite players. This says something about rooting for a loser for decades, I guess. Can anyone imagine a Cardinals fan EVER saying what Ron just said when their club is odds-on favorite to be in post-season?

Wake Up! Your lovable losers are in the dust bin. You don't have to think like a loser anymore. Be Here Now.

You seem to be suggesting I'm saying something I'm not. I'd rather you didn't do that.

What I actually said was "I enjoy the game itself, I enjoy rooting for favorite players and I especially enjoy watching the team perform well, even in years they don't get to the World Series."

I never said I would not be disappointed if the Cubs don't make the playoffs this season, nor did I say that I am not hoping for them to get into the playoffs and prosper within them. I never used the term "icing on the cake" and as it happens, I don't like losing and have never embraced the term "lovable losers" when applied to the Cubs (or anything else, for that matter).   I simply said that if they fail to get to the World Series, or even fail to get into the playoffs, that it will not prevent me from enjoying this very fun and promising (for me anyway) season. 

Since I've objected to your characterization of what I said, I won't try to characterize your position.  I'll simply ask whether you are saying that you cannot enjoy or appreciate this season unless the Cubs ... what ... get into the playoffs, get to the World Series ... or what? 

As for me, I don't find it necessary or elucidating to point out that I enjoy baseball and always like to see Cubs do well.

Perhaps if the board hosts would like to add a topic of Obvious Things Worth Saying, we can weigh in on evils of nuclear proliferation or that driving drunk is bad.

But, for Ron, let us all say we can "enjoy and appreciate" the Cubs 2015 season.

Glad we settled that controversy.

You're not the youngest, Dusty.  I'm 32.

I forgot about you Okie.

I knew we were close.

Just try to forget about the Cubs history. Yes, easier said than done. The baggage is overwhelming. We all carry it. But, it's not healthy. Fans of most other clubs don't carry it in same way.

Don't temper expectations based on the history. That's all. We can compare Club X to Club Y on the merits.  But, the game is unpredictable and what happened in some past season is totally irrelevant to what will happen on field in 2015.  Ask the Cubs players about that.

I, for one, appreciate that some posters acknowledge that they kind of brace themselves for the worst. 29 teams won't win WS in 2015, so odds are with anybody expecting something less. But, what will happen has zero to do with Cubs history. We know that but there's the baggage.

The Cubs history is only relevant when Cubs win it all. Then, it will be especially sweet for us all.  We will be rewarded in a special way. In the meantime, it's one game at a time and no point to temper expectations based on something irrelevant to now.

2-run homer for Marlon Byrd in his first at-bat with the Giants. They are indeed the Cardinals of the west.

Don't temper expectations based on the history. That's all. We can compare Club X to Club Y on the merits.  But, the game is unpredictable and what happened in some past season is totally irrelevant to what will happen on field in 2015.  Ask the Cubs players about that.

Another thing which is irrelevant to the outcome on the field in 2015 is whether Cub fans do or do not temper expectations based on history, or have any expectations at all... or are absolutely rabidly committed to the team and live or die with the outcome.

NONE of that is relevant to the outcome on the field.

I, for one, appreciate that some posters acknowledge that they kind of brace themselves for the worst. 29 teams won't win WS in 2015, so odds are with anybody expecting something less.

It is not "brac(ing)... for the worst" to enjoy the season for what it is, or to understand and accept the fact that it is highly unlikely the 2015 team will go far in the post-season, or even to believe that the Cubs in the immediate future are likely to be a good deal better than now, or to recognize that failing to win the WS this year is a long, long way from the worst thing that can happen.

Bumgarner with his 5th homer of year tonight.

Soler has six.