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JR

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« Reply #1245 on: November 01, 2015, 11:09:38 pm »
After destroying the Cubs, Daniel Murphy has turned into utter crap.
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brjones

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« Reply #1246 on: November 01, 2015, 11:10:28 pm »
I wish the World Series version of Daniel Murphy had showed up in the NLCS. 
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JR

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« Reply #1247 on: November 01, 2015, 11:10:47 pm »
Quote from: brjones on November 01, 2015, 11:10:28 pm
I wish the World Series version of Daniel Murphy had showed up in the NLCS. 

Ha!  No kidding.
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JR

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« Reply #1248 on: November 01, 2015, 11:12:56 pm »
Kind of cool to see Christian Colon get the go ahead hit.  He's been viewed as a first round bust for the Royals, and it seems like he's on the Omaha Storm Chasers roster every time they've been to Nashville the last few seasons.

Maybe the Royals won't regret taking him 4th overall if they win this game after all.
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« Reply #1249 on: November 01, 2015, 11:23:06 pm »
Thanks god the Royals' suffering is over after 30 years.
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« Reply #1250 on: November 01, 2015, 11:32:46 pm »
It's 12:30 am on Monday, November 2, and they are playing the World Series.  This is ridiculous.
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brjones

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« Reply #1251 on: November 01, 2015, 11:35:52 pm »
Terry Collins will have nightmares about the last two games for the next 5 months.
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« Reply #1252 on: November 01, 2015, 11:47:56 pm »
Great job by Baseball Prospectus and their PECOTA system for projecting Royals to finish season at 72-90. Guess Royals snuck up on them as defending 2014 AL pennant winners.
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Dihard

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« Reply #1253 on: November 02, 2015, 12:12:26 am »
Yost just said he's been to 8 World Series and lost 7. Wow
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CUBluejays

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« Reply #1254 on: November 02, 2015, 12:55:57 am »
Congrats to the Royals and just think they were 6 outs away from getting eliminated in the ALDS. The playoffs are weird.

So which moment is the Buckner, Murphy's error or Duda's throw?

Murphy just needs Cy Young worthy pitching to hit off of.

Now, it is time for some fun in the off season.  The Cubs have so many directions they could go. Do the buy the high priced pitcher, sign a lower tier guy, trade bats for pitching, who do they lose in the Rule 5?  This off season is going to be fun.
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Ron

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« Reply #1255 on: November 02, 2015, 07:54:56 am »
The Royals really are a fun team to watch.  No question.

Interesting thing about Hosmer scoring the tying run is that the TV crew kept talking about what a great play it was on Hosmer's part.  Problem is that a decent throw by Duda would have had him out easily and that would have ended the inning and the chance  for the Royals to tie the game. Not sure they would have been raving about what a heads up play it was then.

Given the article discussing the excellent advance scouting by the Royals, maybe they knew Duda was terrible at throwing home. If so, then it was a good risk I guess. But with a Rizzo-type 1B, he would have been a dead duck resulting in an inning (and rally) ending DP. 

But maybe this is just Royals baseball and they are willing to live and die with that sort of very aggressive baserunning.  It does seem to work for them.
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« Reply #1256 on: November 02, 2015, 08:35:29 am »
Good point, Ron.  Think it would have taken a very fine throw to get him, since the catcher would have to receive it and redirect to apply the tag.  But yeah, a good throw and he's out, different story. 

Real games often hinge on quick decisions, and on execution by opponent, not just on what you do.  In first Mets game, Castro tried to score, and got thrown out.  If he'd run out of the box he'd have been at 3B instead of 2B in the first place.  A bad quick decision on his part on his own hit; then good execution on Cespedes throw.  If either had differed, run in.  Happens often. 

The Royals are fun to watch.  Compared to the HR-approach, there is just more story drama when runners get on base, you have an inning brewing, balls are hit, fielders need to make plays, base runners need to run bases.  When there are bases loaded and no outs, you know the game is in the balance.  HR's come in a blink.  Living on the HR, who knows which the 150 pitches is the one that might be hit out and change the game?  And who can judge which of the 150 pitches were the key missed-opportunities for hitters when they don't hit out?  The HR game just doesn't have the same story flow.  Doesn't mean it isn't a pretty efficient way to get the job done, though. 

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craig

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« Reply #1257 on: November 02, 2015, 08:45:08 am »
Much of the World Series story has been the Royals brand of offense, and the Mets losing leads.  Still, when you look at three of those games, the Mets got 2 hits (Cueto), 4 hits (Volquez), and 6 hits in the Chris Young start.  Cueto, Volquez, and Young aren't exactly the TORP expensive starters we want Theo to have.  But pitchers like that, combined with a good bullpen, combined with sometimes hard Mets contact that went straight to fielders, that got it done.  If those three guys come back next October, will we expect them to be starting games where the opposition gets 2, 4, or 6 hits total?  Not necessarily.  Just as if Arrieta, Lester, Hendricks, and Hammel came back next October, they might not give up nearly as many hits or runs as they did this Mets series. 
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ben

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« Reply #1258 on: November 02, 2015, 08:50:54 am »
Yes, Craig, the Royals anti-strikeout approach works great, but HRs are still very efficient.  We will vastly improve our strikeout issues in time...and still have the HR threats.

Experience REALLY helps!  The Royals' studs have been together for SEVERAL years. 

It takes experience to learn how to execute pitch-by-pitch in the most critical games, as the Royals did.  They weren't ready to get that done until these last two seasons.

Our guys will get there.
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« Reply #1259 on: November 02, 2015, 08:55:09 am »
You can argue about whether he's going to justify what he's going to be paid going forward, but the Cueto of the last two seasons is certainly a TORP.

I think the WS is interesting in that it shows that there are many ways to succeed in baseball.  The Mets got there behind tremendous power SP.  The Royals built a team of scrappers who win with defense, baserunning, being tough outs and with a terrific bullpen.  The Cubs got as far as they did mostly behind straight-out bombers and the 3-run HR - Earl Weaver would have been proud.

I think the point here is that there's not only 1 way to get ahead in baseball, and K.C. and N.Y.'s success doesn't mean we have to copy them to win it all.  But the Cubs can try to become a little more like them without scrapping the whole shebang and changing their identity.
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