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brjones

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1440 on: November 13, 2015, 06:50:23 pm »
Padres beat writer:
Dennis Lin ‏@dennistlin 
Tyson Ross is not in the Craig Kimbrel trade, according to a source.
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CUBluejays

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1441 on: November 13, 2015, 06:51:59 pm »
Nope just an over pay.
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brjones

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1442 on: November 13, 2015, 06:54:49 pm »
Add Javier Guerra to the return for the Padres.
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brjones

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1443 on: November 13, 2015, 07:03:12 pm »
Trade announced, 4 for 1.  I don't know anything about the prospects, but it sounds like the Padres did great here.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1444 on: November 13, 2015, 07:25:35 pm »
Margot is top 50 easily and might be close in value to Torres. Guerra is a defensive whiz, with some pop and K problem, who has made some top 100 lists. Allen is a 2015 pick that they paid $700,000+ in the 8th round. I don't know anything about the 4th guy other. 

Who here would trade Torres and McKinney for Kimbrel?
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1445 on: November 13, 2015, 07:46:25 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on November 13, 2015, 07:25:35 pm
Margot is top 50 easily and might be close in value to Torres. Guerra is a defensive whiz, with some pop and K problem, who has made some top 100 lists. Allen is a 2015 pick that they paid $700,000+ in the 8th round. I don't know anything about the 4th guy other. 

Who here would trade Torres and McKinney for Kimbrel?

I don't know that I would, but I don't think it would be an outrageous price.  Kimbrel is really, really good.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1446 on: November 13, 2015, 08:21:34 pm »
My son's HS team faced Logan Allen at Perfect Game earlier this spring. He's pretty dirty.
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brjones

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1447 on: November 13, 2015, 08:32:04 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on November 13, 2015, 07:25:35 pm
Who here would trade Torres and McKinney for Kimbrel?

I'm pretty much always opposed to trading good value for a relief pitcher, so I probably wouldn't give up either of them alone for Kimbrel.  Both of them would be really bad.  I'd rather just buy a closer or trade for a second-tier closer or setup guy.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1448 on: November 13, 2015, 08:33:43 pm »
It could really be Torres, McKinney, Sands, Villaneuva. Badler mention that Guerra might be a top 50 guy as well. Kimbrel is good and well paid for it. I'd much rather draft a closer in the Rule 5 draft :).

I think this should also put the Ross tumors to bed. With the freed up money the Padres might be looking at Ian Desmond.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1449 on: November 13, 2015, 10:19:47 pm »
Padres would now be a good landing spot for Papelbon.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1450 on: November 13, 2015, 10:26:58 pm »
Kimbrell is better than Rondon, but not so much better that we give up assets to get him over an SP or CF.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1451 on: November 13, 2015, 10:39:52 pm »
Wow! I'd be really pissed if the Cubs made an equivalent trade. Kimbrel is fantastic, but he's getting paid like it, so it's not as if there's a ton of surplus value there. It's like trying to deal Votto - maybe the best hitter on the planet, but he comes with a quarter billion dollar contract attached.

STUNNED the Pads got that much.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1452 on: November 13, 2015, 10:45:41 pm »
Don't think Chapman will fetch as much, with only one year of control as a pending FA.
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« Reply #1453 on: November 13, 2015, 10:49:02 pm »
Don't think Chapman will fetch as much, with only one year of control as a pending FA.

But would be fun to see him warming up in bullpen as a Cub, ready for the 9th. Bump Rondon and Strop back an inning.

No, not realistic.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1454 on: November 13, 2015, 11:05:40 pm »
I've suggested this several times and no one has commented.  Probably because everyone has me on Ignore, too, but would there be no chance to switch Chapman back to a starter?
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