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CUBluejays

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1695 on: December 06, 2015, 10:16:21 am »
For non-elite relievers I much prefer the Cubs approach of getting a bunch of arms and seeing what sticks. Madson seems like a big over pay.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1696 on: December 06, 2015, 11:16:26 am »
Isn't that the same team that had to sell off resources to trade for Ricardo Rincon, as well as include Cokes for their drink machine in another deal?

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1697 on: December 06, 2015, 02:00:31 pm »
Levine tweeted Cubs offered price 7/$161.

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« Reply #1698 on: December 06, 2015, 02:06:21 pm »
He also said the Cubs came in third in the bidding behind Boston and St. Louis.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1699 on: December 06, 2015, 02:51:31 pm »
Levine tweeted Cubs offered price 7/$161.


That's less per year than they signed Jon Lester for last winter. So if Levine's numbers are true, the Cubs didn't make a real serious effort to sign David Price if they offered $23 million a year.  Sounds more like a face saving offer to tell their fans they tried instead of a serious attempt to sign him. Especially when you add in the fact that signing David Price, like Jon Lester last season, didn't lose them a draft pick.




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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1700 on: December 06, 2015, 02:58:18 pm »
He called it creative, but yeah that isn't competative at all. 

Chris Young signs with the Royals 2 year/$20-24 million.
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« Reply #1701 on: December 06, 2015, 03:41:05 pm »
He called it creative, but yeah that isn't competative at all. 

Chris Young signs with the Royals 2 year/$20-24 million.

Think that's 2/$11-12, no?
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« Reply #1702 on: December 06, 2015, 03:56:18 pm »
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Sounds more like a face saving offer to tell their fans they tried instead of a serious attempt to sign him.

What, you think they wouldn't want him at that price?  The guy said he wanted to play for Chicago.  Let's see if he means it and offer him what we think is reasonable.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1703 on: December 06, 2015, 03:56:39 pm »

That's less per year than they signed Jon Lester for last winter. So if Levine's numbers are true, the Cubs didn't make a real serious effort to sign David Price if they offered $23 million a year.  Sounds more like a face saving offer to tell their fans they tried instead of a serious attempt to sign him. Especially when you add in the fact that signing David Price, like Jon Lester last season, didn't lose them a draft pick.
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Then there is always the wildly remote possibility that whatever the Cubs offered was a reflection of what they thought he was worth to the team, particularly given the other alternatives, and the fact that for a team that just won 97 games and built what appears to be a foundation set for a multi-year run, there really is no need for any "face saving."

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1704 on: December 06, 2015, 04:14:44 pm »
Think that's 2/$11-12, no?

I thought that was AAV, but it appears to be the total. That seems rather low for him.
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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1705 on: December 06, 2015, 04:32:03 pm »
I thought that was AAV, but it appears to be the total. That seems rather low for him.
yeah, that's Hammel territory.  ;)

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1706 on: December 06, 2015, 04:52:28 pm »
It is about what the Cubs are paying him if the pick up his option.

Onley tweeting Dodgers and Reds getting close on a Chapman trade.

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« Reply #1707 on: December 06, 2015, 05:15:19 pm »
Hammel got 2/$20 coming off career season---wouldn't get that today in this market coming off late meltdown.

He is somewhere  between Fister and Young, as said before. Fister will probably get nice 1-year deal.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1708 on: December 06, 2015, 05:57:08 pm »
Hammel and Young will be much better than Fister in 2016.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1709 on: December 06, 2015, 06:43:47 pm »
Padres want to trade Kemp without eating much money and would like a SS. Preller is fun.