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« Reply #1860 on: December 09, 2015, 06:51:46 pm »
Interesting that Chris Davis apparently has 7-year offer ($150) from O's.

Heyward wants 10 years but is 3 1/2 years younger than Davis. Seems like Heyward might age better than Davis.

Should Cubs go 10 years for Heyward?

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« Reply #1861 on: December 09, 2015, 07:01:49 pm »
If you believe in the player seeing that he's only 26 then a 10 year deal shouldnt be bad but he wont stay in CF long.

10 years/300 million?

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« Reply #1862 on: December 09, 2015, 07:05:21 pm »

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« Reply #1863 on: December 09, 2015, 07:08:41 pm »
Realistically, it's going to be a four year deal.  He'll get something like 10/$200 with an opt-out after four years, and there's virtually no chance he doesn't take the opt-out.

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« Reply #1864 on: December 09, 2015, 07:09:02 pm »
Buster Olney insinuating our interest isnt legit.

I think the same.

Buster Olney – Verified account ‏@Buster_ESPN

Seeing word of Cubs' interest in STL target Jason Heyward reminds me of how Cashman/Theo/NYY/BOS always worked to push up price for a rival.

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« Reply #1865 on: December 09, 2015, 07:24:10 pm »
Who was the ass-clown wearing a red STL shirt, trying to get camera time while in the back round of MLB's coverage today? What a freak

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« Reply #1866 on: December 09, 2015, 07:45:54 pm »
Giles to Astros for Velasquez, Oberholtzer, and Dereck Fisher.

Davis wants 8/$200 million according to Heyman.

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« Reply #1867 on: December 09, 2015, 07:50:00 pm »
Giles to Astros for Velasquez, Oberholtzer, and Dereck Fisher.

**** pissed off about this.  Cubs should have blown that offer out of the water.

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« Reply #1868 on: December 09, 2015, 08:05:21 pm »
Don't tell Jeff.  He'll be pissed

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« Reply #1869 on: December 09, 2015, 08:07:32 pm »
Lawrie to the White Sox is done.

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« Reply #1870 on: December 09, 2015, 08:08:32 pm »
4th unnamed player as well.

I'd laugh if it is Appel.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #1871 on: December 09, 2015, 08:43:21 pm »
The Mets sign Asdrubal Cabrera, 2 years, $18.5 million. 

Their infield defense is terrible.  Aging Wright, Cabrera, Walker, and Duda.  And I guess Cuddyer and Granderson making up 2/3 of the outfield is pretty awful too.

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« Reply #1872 on: December 09, 2015, 08:49:43 pm »
Interesting that Chris Davis apparently has 7-year offer ($150) from O's.

Heyward wants 10 years but is 3 1/2 years younger than Davis. Seems like Heyward might age better than Davis.

Should Cubs go 10 years for Heyward?

In terms of long-term planning, isn't it true that the only really large commitments to current players are to Zobrist through 2019 and to Lester through 2020 (with a team option for 2021) then the commitments to them will disappear.  Arrieta will need an extension within the next couple of years, but Hammel will go off the books after next year ($10 million with $2 million buyout for 2017).

Meanwhile, Rizzo is signed for a very team friendly amount (with team option) through 2021, and Soler through 2020.  Am I correct that Baez is under control until 2021, Bryant, Russell and Schwarber until 2022?  So the youngsters are not going to become big ticket items until after Hammel, Zobrist and Lester are no longer being paid.  It seems like this might render a long-term, very large Heyward deal practical, especially considering the revenues should increase dramatically with whatever media deals are reached by 2020.


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« Reply #1873 on: December 09, 2015, 08:56:47 pm »
Baez has 6 years of control left I think 

I also think BR is right that Heyward gets an opt out around year 4/5 so he'd likely be off the books too.
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« Reply #1874 on: December 09, 2015, 08:59:11 pm »
The Mets sign Asdrubal Cabrera, 2 years, $18.5 million. 

Their infield defense is terrible.  Aging Wright, Cabrera, Walker, and Duda.  And I guess Cuddyer and Granderson making up 2/3 of the outfield is pretty awful too.

The offense isn't much better. If Lageres's arm heals he is pretty elite in CF on defense, but I'vd seen a couple places where they want to replace him.

So the Mets elite SP pitching. Bad defense, offense and bullpen.