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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2020, 07:26:32 pm »
Did anybody see the BA article on IFA?  Can someone at least lie to me and the Cubs are signing somebody that projects as possible SP.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2020, 07:33:11 pm »
We've got Maples. 
We've got Burl.
We've got Kimbrel. 
We've got Underwood. 

I think they ought to get Edwards back!  :):)
And Justin Grimm is still only 32... 
How old is Marmol, now? 

Remember before last season when Theo said that bullpen control was going to be a priority? 

Cubs got Burl at 51; three of the major and best-respected ranking sources had him in the 40's.  So as with Howard, Cubs with another relatively scouting-mainstream selection. 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2020, 07:34:55 pm »
I love a good bullpen.  If Burl can throw enough strikes, I trust it won't be a wasted pick.  Heh heh, the next Josh Hader! 
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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2020, 07:35:53 pm »

https://www.sikids.com/kid-reporter/michigans-brewer-and-nwogu-traded-football-baseball

Not sure how many intellectual chess players are going to challenge him on the Cubs....


Hendricks?

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2020, 07:39:32 pm »
I'm waiting anxiously for Jiggs' assessment of Nwogu.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2020, 07:55:19 pm »
There were reports that the new guy was looking for more upside; and the talk of a refreshed and more modern commitment to development. 

Both picks 2 and 3 would seem consistent with strong belief in their new development system. 

Burl with a great arm, great stuff, great spin rate... but wild as a Marmol.  The report was that he was a center fielder, converted to pitching as a freshman where he pitched only 0.1 inning, and has now accumulated only 52 innings in his life.  That's is so little experience, and obviously he's wild as can be.  I assume they believe that their development system will be able to work with his delivery to enable much-improved consistency and control, and if so that his stuff will make him a weapon.  Massive developmental project, pitch-lab project, seems to me.  But the "stuff" has plenty of upside. 

As a value, though, I wonder how much upside the selection has?  When you'll never pitch more than a few dozen innings per season, the situational-relief role somewhat constrains the value upside.  Still, I'm a huge believer in a strong stocked bullpen. 

Now Nwogu, a guy with D1 football scholarship offers, and some suggestions that he's got a weird, whacky swing.  Report of serious power, and one report mentioned favorable eye-hand coordination.  But he's K'd a lot even versus Big Ten pitching...  Is there the belief that with the new hitting-mechanics analysis, that the pure talent is there and that with improved swing-mechanics, that he might turn into a force? 

I've often felt like a player's career can be as easily dictated by his biggest weakness, as by his biggest strength.  Cubs have previously tended towards avoidance-of-Achilles-heel guys, I think.  Here the new boss seems to be taking a couple of guys with massive Achilles-heel problems, for now; but with the view that development may be able to correct those. 

Will be interesting to see how they do. 

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2020, 08:00:33 pm »
Luke Little, 6-8 lefty that might throw 105. Poor control and no secondary stuff.

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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2020, 08:03:38 pm »
Unless they go to UT or are from around here I dont know anything about these cats.

I just hoped the Cubs would get Crochet or Soularie.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2020, 08:05:48 pm »
I love a good bullpen.  If Burl can throw enough strikes, I trust it won't be a wasted pick.  Heh heh, the next Josh Hader! 

Cubs are going with 2 SP and an 11 man bullpen next year. Should be fun.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2020, 08:11:12 pm »
I'm waiting anxiously for Jiggs' assessment of Nwogu.
Jiggy is brushing the dust off his chess set.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2020, 08:19:57 pm »
Luke Little, 6-8 lefty that might throw 105. Poor control and no secondary stuff.

BA says above-average slider.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2020, 08:47:50 pm »
BA says above-average slider.

If he was throwing 100 mph with and above average slider he’d be ranked above Burl. It might flash above average and might get there some day. BA also said the spin rates where not all that good.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2020, 08:59:31 pm »
Sounds like a project for the pitching lab.  The front office must have confidence that it is a worthwhile project.

There is no doubt that you can not teach velocity to any large extent.  It looks as if with the two leftys they drafted today, they are going in a different direction.

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2020, 09:26:50 pm »
2nd rounder is a tiny lefty named after part of a tree, 4th rounder is a hug lefty named "Little".

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Re: Cubs Draft 2020
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2020, 09:30:16 pm »
If he was throwing 100 mph with and above average slider he’d be ranked above Burl. It might flash above average and might get there some day. BA also said the spin rates where not all that good.

Little is a raw 19 year old with poor control and Burl is the top pure reliever in the draft (and perhaps close to the majors), so not surprising that the latter drafted higher.

But, the point is a report that Little has a “above-average” slider with bite—-that contradicts notion of “no secondary stuff.”

Maybe you saw Little pitch on a day that BA is unaware of.