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Dave23

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1425 on: January 16, 2023, 07:43:30 pm »
Oh, and the 3rd catcher was Tim Blackwell, right?
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1426 on: January 16, 2023, 07:44:46 pm »
I don’t remember Kremmel or Prall at all.
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1427 on: January 16, 2023, 07:48:10 pm »
Quote from: davep on January 16, 2023, 07:32:17 pm
Moore, like so many in those days, was much better after he was traded or released.
Willie Hernandez.
Bert Hootan.
Larry Gura
Dennis Eckersley.
Manny Trillo

Andre Thornton
Bill Caudill
Pat Tabler
Scott Fletcher
Steve Stone
Geoff Zahn
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1428 on: January 16, 2023, 07:49:55 pm »
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« Reply #1429 on: January 16, 2023, 08:19:45 pm »
Thanks, Jeff…I was a few years early on Blackwell…
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1430 on: January 17, 2023, 09:14:24 am »
Garman is the reliever they got in return for Kessinger.
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JeffH

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« Reply #1431 on: January 21, 2023, 07:39:41 pm »
Obviously, the role of the starting pitcher has changed over time.  That said, future Hall of Famers Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer have a COMBINED 38 complete games in their careers.

If you want to have some fun, go back and look at how many mediocre Cubs pitchers exceeded that in their careers.
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1432 on: January 21, 2023, 08:30:59 pm »
Quote from: JeffH on January 21, 2023, 07:39:41 pm
Obviously, the role of the starting pitcher has changed over time.  That said, future Hall of Famers Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer have a COMBINED 38 complete games in their careers.

If you want to have some fun, go back and look at how many mediocre Cubs pitchers exceeded that in their careers.

The inaugural 1962 Mets went 40-120.

1962 Mets starters threw 43 complete games.
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #1433 on: January 21, 2023, 08:44:53 pm »
Quote from: Reb on January 21, 2023, 08:30:59 pm
The inaugural 1962 Mets went 40-120.

1962 Mets starters threw 43 complete games.

Amazing!
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« Reply #1434 on: January 21, 2023, 09:03:48 pm »
I wonder if those Mets were the last team to have more CGs than wins.  I just looked at the 1968 season and also the AL in the years following 1973 when the DH came in, and none of those teams did it.

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« Reply #1435 on: January 21, 2023, 09:42:14 pm »
Bob Gibson, Juan Marichal, Warren Spahn, Robin Roberts——all had more career complete games than career wins.

And, ditto for guys like Walter Johnson, Eddie Plank, Bob Feller and more.
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