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Dave23

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« Reply #480 on: October 22, 2012, 07:57:34 pm »
Griffin walked enough to have nice OBPs...he just couldn't hit a lick...

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« Reply #481 on: October 22, 2012, 07:58:24 pm »
Cunningham was worse than Griffin. He was just awful.

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« Reply #482 on: October 22, 2012, 08:02:45 pm »
What about this lefty pitcher from Idaho...Pawlesomething?  Never did a lick.

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« Reply #483 on: December 23, 2012, 11:33:25 pm »
Found this interesting.  Discussion on Sosa's chances to make the HOF.  Discuss.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21411401/ranking-the-hall-of-fame-candidates-no-13-sammy-sosa

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« Reply #484 on: December 28, 2012, 01:50:07 pm »
12/28 RIP, Jimmy Farrell

You probably never noticed Jimmy Farrell. He’d prefer it that way. Farrell was the umpires clubhouse attendant at Wrigley Field, starting in 1982, and held that job until 2007. He loved his work.

Farrell passed away this week. He was 91.

In a 2000 interview for my book, “Banks to Sandberg to Grace,” he talked about his job and some of the fun he had.

“I haven’t met a bad umpire since I’ve been here,” he said. “We have a lot of fun over the years, like Joe West, for instance. At the All-Star Game one time — this is going back. The umpires tip me. They tip me pretty good. When I got home, I told my wife Eleanor what I had. So, Joe West sees her the next day and he says, ‘Oh, Eleanor, did Jimmy buy you a fur coat with the money he made?’ and he told her how much I made.

“See, I cheated a little bit on Eleanor that time,” Farrell said, sheepishly. “A little bit, you know. She says, ‘Jimmy, Joe West told me you made such and such.’ I said, ‘He’s kidding you. You know how Joe is. He’s kidding you.’

“So, Harry Wendlestedt is the crew chief at the time, and the next time they come in, I said, ‘Harry, you once told me that everything that’s said in this clubhouse stays here. One of these umpires told my wife something he shouldn’t have told.’ And, Harry said, ‘What?’

“And so I told him,” Farrell said. “Harry fined him $50 for that.”

Farrell could be spotted during games standing near the middle steps of the Cubs dugout. That spot nearly proved dangerous in 1991 when Andre Dawson, upset at West’s calls in a game, hurled a bunch of bats from the dugout onto the field in anger. The bats nearly hit Farrell in the head. Dawson later apologized to Farrell, not West.

Before every game, Farrell would take the game ball to the mound, and once left a rabbit’s foot for Rick Sutcliffe, who picked it up, put it in his pocket, and won that day. Farrell put a penny on the mound one time for Dickie Noles, which he kept.

Farrell also would join in the gag when the umpires asked an unsuspecting bat boy to find the key to the bullpen.

The umpire’s room used to be near the Cubs clubhouse and was a popular spot before the team created a video room. The Cubs players would sneak in to watch the television and see how the opposing pitcher was throwing. Players also would stop by just to chat with Farrell, a trusting grandfatherly type. Ryne Sandberg and Kerry Wood were among his favorites.

Farrell and his wife, Eleanor, were married for 68 years prior to her death. He is survived by four children, nine grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. Services are pending.

– Carrie Muskat

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« Reply #485 on: December 28, 2012, 01:50:45 pm »
For me, Wrigley Field has always been more than the ivy, its history, and the Cubs.    Guys like Jimmie Farrell and Yosh Kawano were a big part of it too.

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« Reply #486 on: January 08, 2013, 01:27:17 pm »
I'm going to be very disappointed if this guy doesn't get enough support to stay on the HOF ballot.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/loftoke01.shtml

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« Reply #487 on: January 08, 2013, 01:54:42 pm »
Not as bad as Lou Whitaker dropping early, but yeah...

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« Reply #488 on: January 08, 2013, 02:17:43 pm »
Yeah that's pretty serious omission.

I was looking at how the Veterans Committee handles its voting.  Looks like the next time they will consider Expansion Era players is 2014.  It'd probably be a fun project to put together a list of players they need to consider.

Whitaker and (probably) Lofton would have to be two of the guys they would need to consider the most.

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« Reply #489 on: January 08, 2013, 02:24:30 pm »
You know this whole steroids mess and how many voters are in a tizzy as to how to deal with it may require yet another committee.  Made up of young and old writers and young and old players, they may have to sift through and make up criteria, like how long someone reputedly used, why they used, how much it may have effected their stats, and then make recommendations to the voters.  For example, some guy who used because he was injured as opposed to some guy like Bonds who used because he wanted to set records.  Does a guy get somewhat of a break for coming clean as opposed to some guy who continues to deny, ala Clemens.  It would be a mess, but it already is.  I'm not even beginning to suggest where to draw the line, but as I read articles by some of the voters, that's where they are already...wondering where to draw the line.

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« Reply #490 on: January 08, 2013, 02:50:01 pm »
I think they should just build a whole new damned wing of the HOF and put nothing in it except a bunch of name plates with everyone's name on it that played a minimum of 9 innings during that era. 

Then have a sign that say's everyone in this wing was either cheated out of a spot in the HOF because they were clean or cheated to get in.  We couldn't make up our mind who was deserving or who wasn't because we didn't know where to draw the line so to be fair we just put everone in.

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« Reply #491 on: January 08, 2013, 02:51:05 pm »
And they should spell it EVERone just like I did.

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« Reply #492 on: January 08, 2013, 03:05:35 pm »
Moran.  It's everbody.

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« Reply #493 on: January 08, 2013, 04:47:41 pm »
Not as bad as Lou Whitaker dropping early, but yeah...

Wasn't Santo bumped off the ballot after just a few seasons because of lack of support?

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« Reply #494 on: January 08, 2013, 04:51:05 pm »
You know this whole steroids mess and how many voters are in a tizzy as to how to deal with it may require yet another committee.  Made up of young and old writers and young and old players, they may have to sift through and make up criteria, like how long someone reputedly used, why they used, how much it may have effected their stats, and then make recommendations to the voters.  For example, some guy who used because he was injured as opposed to some guy like Bonds who used because he wanted to set records.  Does a guy get somewhat of a break for coming clean as opposed to some guy who continues to deny, ala Clemens.  It would be a mess, but it already is.  I'm not even beginning to suggest where to draw the line, but as I read articles by some of the voters, that's where they are already...wondering where to draw the line.

And if they do, and even one of the "cheaters" they identify was not a cheater (or was and still denies it), and the HOF would be begging for a defamation lawsuit.