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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #420 on: June 13, 2012, 02:34:47 pm »
When writers can't think of anything to write about, they make lists.

The history of Cubs' first round picks is pretty awful.  Recent busts in addition to those mentioned include Bobby Brownlie, Ben Christensen, Todd Noel, and Jon Ratliff.
Ty Griffin was my biggest disappointment.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #421 on: June 13, 2012, 02:40:45 pm »
This might be a supplemental first round pick, but one of the absolutely worst first round picks the Cubs made was Matt Clanton in 2002. 

Granted Dave Stockstill whiffed on a lot of high picks in that draft, where he had anywhere from 4-6 high picks to draft players the caliber of Joey Votto, Brian McCann, Jon Lester, Curtis Granderson, and Jonathan Broxton and whiffed on all of them.  (That was one loaded draft, and the Cubs blew a ton of high picks that year.)

But of all of those blown picks, Matt Clanton was definitely the most unconscionable.  He was only regarded as a 3rd-4th round talent by most to begin with and had such a bad attitude that he got kicked off his JUCO team right before the draft.  Yet Stockstill picked him ahead of what was a really loaded 2nd round that year, and Clanton wound up pitching a grand total of 4 IP in the minors. 

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #422 on: June 13, 2012, 02:41:33 pm »
My personal meaningless list of worst Cub draft picks since 1995 would be in some order of Mark Pawelek, Hayden Simpson, and Matt Clanton. 

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #423 on: June 13, 2012, 02:50:51 pm »
Have you seen this?

http://cubs.scout.com/2/527823.html
 
Clanton says, his voice filled with emotion, cracking in spots. “Jim Hendry once quoted to me 'This [organization] is not a democracy.  It's a dictatorship.  You shut the f--k up."
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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #424 on: June 13, 2012, 02:51:30 pm »
In case anyone forgot.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?query_type=franch_round&draft_type=junreg&team_ID=CHC&draft_round=1&

I'm just going to say that to be considered for worst pick you need to be top 10.  Here are the candidates:

Shawon Dunston
Mark Prior
Joe Carter
Terry Hughes
Josh Vitters
Luis Montanez
Corey Patterson
Drew Hall
Kerry Wood
Mike Harkey
Brian Rosinski
Dean Burk
Albert Almora
Ryan Harvey
Jackie Davidson
Rick James
Herman Segelke
Scot Thompson
Earl Cunningham
Javier Baez
Ty Griffin
Derrick May
Jon Garland
Brooks Kieschnick

Some good but many misses.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #425 on: June 13, 2012, 03:30:10 pm »
As has been said ad nausium, most picks, even most first round picks, fail.  Brownlie and Christensen and Ratliff were late first round choices, and most late first round choices are more likely to fail than not.  Even Noel was only a 17th  pick in the first round, and probably had about a 10 percent chance to go on to stardom.

Vitters (5?) Montenez (3?) and Davison (6?) are much more spectacular failures.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #426 on: June 13, 2012, 04:09:46 pm »
So Clanton quit on his high school team and his jaycee team.  The jaycee team in the middle of a playoff game. 

Looks like the Cubs scouting staff didn't do due diligence on an $800k mistake.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #427 on: June 13, 2012, 04:22:21 pm »
A quality, quality guy....

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #428 on: June 13, 2012, 04:37:21 pm »
Well, until you tell him to shut the f--k up.  Then his life is ruined.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #429 on: June 13, 2012, 05:54:55 pm »
He and Milton Bradley are two excellent examples of why GMs need to require psych evaluations on many of the guys they shell out big money for.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #430 on: June 15, 2012, 09:28:50 am »
Billy Williams is 74 today.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #431 on: July 07, 2012, 09:41:19 am »
July 7, 1993 - Tom Browning decides that he has seen the view from the dugout often enough, so he leaves Wrigley Field and watches the Reds beat the Cubs 4-3 from the roof of a three-story building across Sheffield Avenue. He is fined $500 for leaving the dugout - not to mention the ballpark - during a game.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #432 on: July 07, 2012, 11:49:43 am »
Had he started, and been taken out of that game?  I remember seeing him up there, but don't remember the details.

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Re: Cubs History
« Reply #433 on: July 07, 2012, 01:47:32 pm »
Had he started, and been taken out of that game?  I remember seeing him up there, but don't remember the details.

Nope.  He had last started three days earlier, and next started on the 9th.  On the 7th the Reds beat the Cubs 4-3, the same score it was at the end of the 3rd inning.  http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199307070.shtml

In other words Browning deserved every penny of his fine and then some.

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