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DUSTY

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2017, 10:54:52 am »
I was thinking the same Cletus.

He just spent a whole year with them.

Thats plenty of bonding time.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2017, 11:04:25 am »
Twitter

Anyone in particular? I have the distinct impression that some people may tweet false information via twitter.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 11:05:08 am »
Anyone in particular? I have the distinct impression that some people may tweet false information via twitter.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 12:26:50 pm »
Bruce Levine‏ @MLBBruceLevine  3h3 hours ago
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 Chicago Cubs hitting coach John Mallee has his end of the season exit meeting with the front office today .

I guess we'll hear something soon if it is going to happen.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 12:49:07 pm »
Bruce Levine‏ @MLBBruceLevine  3h3 hours ago
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 Chicago Cubs hitting coach John Mallee has his end of the season exit meeting with the front office today .

I guess we'll hear something soon if it is going to happen.

From a Bruce Miles column on Chris Bosio

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There was no formal news release, as the Cubs say they are trying to respect Major League Baseball's edict against making big announcements during the World Series, which begins Tuesday night.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 12:50:05 pm »
If anyone should be shaking in their boots it should be Mallee. Nearly every Cub hitter took a step back this year.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 12:51:17 pm »
If he is let go, my guess is that it will leak Bosio.  Same thing goes for Hickey getting hired.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 01:25:55 pm »
I hope we're not descending into a culture of scapegoating the coaches.  They were good enough for us to win the WS last year and get to the LCS this year.  Obviously you can't fire the players, and at this point Joe seems to be pretty much untouchable.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 01:47:21 pm »
On the other hand, let's not be afraid to make a change if there is some "process-level" reason that warrants it.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 01:54:02 pm »
That's a good point, deeg.  I suspect Mallee is just fine and is perfectly safe.  But I'll be fine with whichever direction management chooses to go, keep (expected) or change (shocker).

But hey, have I ever mentioned that there can be value in change-for-change sake?  The core have all heard Mallee's input.  Maybe a new voice would perk up some listening ears; or maybe a new voice might have a fresh insight or two to add; or maybe a new personality might persuade a core hitter or two to make a beneficial adjustment of some kind? 


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 02:24:50 pm »
We've certainly come a long way from, "Hey we lost the NLCS, but it was a heck of a season!" to "Hey we lost the NLCS, it's time for some heads to roll!"
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2017, 02:25:46 pm »
Change for change's sake can also remind the players (especially young players) that this is a production based business. Perhaps one can blame it on the short offseason, world series hangover, WBC, Joe's approach to spring training or a belated sophmore slump, but nearly every hitter not named Javy Baez reverted this year. Certainly no other hitter came back having added some new component to their games. That isn't the fault of the hitting instructor. That is all on the hitters. Jayson Heyward attempted it in a very high profile way, then turned right back into his non-productive self. Schwarber didn't improve until his Iowa trip and still was a shell of his pre-injury self. I can't name anyone who improve year over year other than Javy and for a stretch, Contreras.  I don't know that that is all on Mallee, but if you don't judge hitting coaches on such things what do you judge them on?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2017, 02:48:34 pm »
That's a good point, deeg.  I suspect Mallee is just fine and is perfectly safe.  But I'll be fine with whichever direction management chooses to go, keep (expected) or change (shocker).

But hey, have I ever mentioned that there can be value in change-for-change sake?  The core have all heard Mallee's input.  Maybe a new voice would perk up some listening ears; or maybe a new voice might have a fresh insight or two to add; or maybe a new personality might persuade a core hitter or two to make a beneficial adjustment of some kind? 


Yes, sometimes change for its own sake can be helpful and even necessary, even when it's grossly unfair.  There may have been a physical hangover from last season but I think there's circumstantial evidence of a complacency/press clippings factor too.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2017, 02:53:50 pm »
I don't think we can overlook that the motivation to end the 108 year drought is gone.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2017, 03:09:09 pm »
We've certainly come a long way from, "Hey we lost the NLCS, but it was a heck of a season!" to "Hey we lost the NLCS, it's time for some heads to roll!"

Well, so far only one head has rolled. We'll see if there are other changes (besides coaches being recruited for promotions with other clubs).