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DUSTY

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2017, 05:10:21 pm »
I don't think we can overlook that the motivation to end the 108 year drought is gone.

Amen.

I told my wife the same thing.

That fire is gone.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2017, 05:35:41 pm »
Are you talking about the Cubs or your marriage?
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DUSTY

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2017, 05:37:51 pm »
My wife is my biggest fan Curt.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2017, 05:41:26 pm »
Well, at least you got ONE.

DUSTY

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2017, 06:06:18 pm »
My son and my momma like me too.

My daughter not so much. Lol

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2017, 06:31:46 pm »
Nobody has ever wanted to spend more time with family.


Ah, projection.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2017, 06:32:32 pm »
Anyone in particular? I have the distinct impression that some people may tweet false information via twitter.

What an utter absurdity.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2017, 06:33:13 pm »
Well, so far only one head has rolled. We'll see if there are other changes (besides coaches being recruited for promotions with other clubs).

I don't think deeg's twitter rumor on Mallee is likely to be a thing. 
*If the end-of-year interview hadn't even occurred till today, I doubt any twitter sources would have any info. 
*With Bosio, if they'd already had the exit interview, and told him, he might be then telling people. 
*But don't think Theo and Hoyer and Maddon would be leaking it to Twitter-world even before they'd sat down with the man himself. 
*And the man getting let go wouldn't be leaking it to twitter before even knowing about it himself! 
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Re: Cubs in '18
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2017, 12:23:31 am »
We're gonna be badasses again next year.

I have no doubt.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2017, 07:52:31 am »
If, as seems likely, we go into next season with a slightly above average rotation and below average bullpen, we will probably be competing with the Brewers for the NL Central.  Perhaps high 80s, low 90s win total.  To separate ourselves, we would need to acquire a #1/2 starter and/or completely revamp the bullpen to improve it dramatically. 

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2017, 10:07:39 am »
I'll buy that.  I wouldn't count the Cardinals out of that mix, too - they're going to spend a lot of money this winter.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2017, 01:10:37 pm »
If, as seems likely, we go into next season with a slightly above average rotation and below average bullpen, we will probably be competing with the Brewers for the NL Central.  Perhaps high 80s, low 90s win total.  To separate ourselves, we would need to acquire a #1/2 starter and/or completely revamp the bullpen to improve it dramatically. 

The Cubs are still one of the better teams in MLB. 

Getting a great 1/2 would be nice, but it isn't a need.  Quintana, Hendricks, Lester is going to be in the upper echelon of production for a teams top 3 starters and is just fine.  A #4 starter worthy of the playoff rotation should be the goal and an #5 that is better than Anderson improves the rotation over last year. 

The bullpen was 14th in fWAR last year.  Losing Davis will be difficult to replace, but the Cubs also have some impact arms that could make this pen really special if their control improves just a little bit.  The pen needs work, but I have a lot of confidence that Theo is up to the task.  There was a freak on on this board when Duensing was signed, but he was one of the Cubs better relievers.   I mean the Dodgers second best reliever this year was a 33 year old minor league free agent.  Bullpens are hard to predict.

The Brewers had a lot go right for them this year.  Maybe Chase Anderson becomes a 3 WAR pitcher at 29.  Maybe Nelson comes back from his torn labrum, but he is going to miss a large amount of 2018 and that is a huge loss.  Maybe Hader can step in or some of their you guys will.  Travis Shaw is in Chris Taylor territory for me, he needs to prove that his improvement is permanent.  Add Thames and Pina to that mix too.  The Brewers have a lot of questions.

The Cardinals could be good again, but they are getting old.  Are Pham and DeJong just this years version of Gricheck, Piscotty and Diaz or are the real.  Their rotations is Martinez, Wacha, Wainwright and Weaver.  Maybe Reyes comes back, maybe it takes him 18 months to recover.  He had control/command issues before TJS and that is the last thing to return.  Maybe they are great or maybe they are just kinda average.  The Cardinals bullpen makes the Cubs situation look amazing.  Rosenthal is going to miss all of 18 or at least a large chunk of it.  They have Brett Cecil, Tyler Lyons and Matt Bowman returning.  The Cardinals can spend a ton of money to try and paper over these issues.  It might work or the might end up 4 games over .500 again after the spent $113 like last off season.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2017, 04:15:34 pm »
Four days old but a pretty good piece on the Cubs' future from Joel Sherman:

http://nypost.com/2017/10/21/diagnosing-the-next-steps-for-cubs-to-remain-a-title-contender/

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2017, 04:52:59 pm »
Thanks Chris.  That was was a good read.

"But the issue goes beyond just the ninth inning. Chicago might have to find a couple of relievers it has faith in. This is the right market place for that. There are a lot of free agent relievers coming off of strong years such as Jake McGee, Mike Minor, Brandon Morrow, Pat Neshek, Addison Reed, Bryan Shaw, Joe Smith and Anthony Swarzak."

I wonder if you could get say McGee to close, Shaw and Swarzak for the cost of Davis.  That could give you McGee, Shaw, Strop, Swarzak, Edwards, Wilson, Montgomery for the pen.