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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #570 on: December 06, 2017, 09:51:14 pm »
If they ever do come in.  Until he signs a big extension, nothing is a lock.

goblue007

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #571 on: December 06, 2017, 11:17:48 pm »
None of that has anything to do with Otani or his decision, of course.

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CUBluejays

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #572 on: December 06, 2017, 11:34:20 pm »
Ohtani made $2.4 million playing in Japan and has according to Lin $7+ million in endorsements in Japan already. The guy has his parents keep track of money and his mom started putting a $1000/month in his bank account that he rarely touched. I think heíll be ok.

Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #573 on: December 07, 2017, 12:10:21 am »
Easy for you to say.  The kid's giving up a ton of money coming over now, but that doesn't mean it's not at least a factor in his mind.  I still say people are too quick to dismiss it.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #574 on: December 07, 2017, 12:11:53 am »
I've never been very good at reading tea leaves. So I won't try to speculate about what, if any, significance there is to any of this.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #575 on: December 07, 2017, 07:42:27 am »
Easy for you to say.  The kid's giving up a ton of money coming over now, but that doesn't mean it's not at least a factor in his mind.  I still say people are too quick to dismiss it.

I have no clue what the guy wants. What we know about him and money seems to point to it not being a bid deal. 4/7 teams are limited to $300,000 and he is turning down a chance at $200 million by not waiting 2 years. He also eliminated 2/3 teams with $3+ million in bonus money.

My hunch is he is going to the team with the best plan for him. If it is a tie, maybe the $1 million tips the scale between teams. He earned $10 million last year he can live off that if his parents invest in marginally well for him the rest of his life. He can afford to not consider money. He isnít a poor kid from the Dominican.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #576 on: December 07, 2017, 09:24:49 am »
I would imagine he will do quite well in endorsements once he is playing in the states. Yes, he is walking away from big money by coming now, but regardless of where he plays, he won't be hurting.

Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #577 on: December 07, 2017, 09:36:48 am »
I would imagine he will do quite well in endorsements once he is playing in the states. Yes, he is walking away from big money by coming now, but regardless of where he plays, he won't be hurting.


The greatest Japanese star in American baseball is, indisputably, Ichiro.  But how much endorsement work has Ichiro done in the States?  Not much.  And how many times can you remember Ichiro publicly speaking English - in an interview, say?  Ichiro understands English and can say the words, believe me, but most Japanese people are very self-conscious about their English pronunciation and thus, reluctant to use it publicly.

Of course Ichiro's endorsement market in Japan has continued to be strong, in part because of his stardom in the U.S..  We're a long way from saying Otani is going to be that successful on the field, but it's possble - he does have the talent.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #578 on: December 07, 2017, 10:09:38 am »
Ohtani's endorsement money has always been in Japan.  Bryant makes significantly less that athletes in other sports.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #579 on: December 07, 2017, 10:36:52 am »
I'm beginning to question the assumptions that were made about what Ohtani wants.  Small market? The only one he hasn't eliminated was San Diego.  Biggest Japanese star?  Seems like Seattle and Texas should have been eliminated long ago.  I think he has a good idea of where he wants to be and it's down to one or two teams, maybe always was.  I picked Seattle, but I'm really feeling Chicago.  It's not small market, it's not West Coast, and it's not DH friendly, so why are we still on the list, unless all the assumptions were wrong?
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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #580 on: December 07, 2017, 10:50:25 am »
Well, we know he likes big steaks.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #581 on: December 07, 2017, 11:06:09 am »
I think it all is about the plan for how he is going to be used and everything is secondary.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #582 on: December 07, 2017, 12:18:51 pm »
Cubs have signed Chatwood for three years.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #583 on: December 07, 2017, 12:19:12 pm »
Chatwood to the Cubs, 3 year deal.  Not a fan.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #584 on: December 07, 2017, 12:21:23 pm »
You all beat me.