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CurtOne

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2017, 12:53:04 pm »
"So much for Joe's statement about how much he wanted all his coaches back." Ron

Amen.  Credibility is taking a hit.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2017, 12:53:52 pm »
Oops.  I guess that means I'm questioning if the World Series Championship happened.  I apologize.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2017, 12:57:29 pm »
Interesting that Hickey wasn't announced....

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« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2017, 01:09:32 pm »
You have to wonder how much the player exit interviews play into these coaching changes.  If there's frequent anti-"Coach X" sentiment, that could at least partially drive decision making.

Good point.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2017, 01:14:55 pm »
Maybe they just view Davis and Butterfield as upgrades and weren't expecting them to be on the market.


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2017, 01:22:53 pm »
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Maybe they just view Davis and Butterfield as upgrades and weren't expecting them to be on the market.

Renteria Syndrome.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2017, 01:28:57 pm »
From a Sun-Times piece:

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Maddon said that the coaching staff shakeup was all about “availability” and who is on the market.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2017, 02:26:46 pm »
Cubs claimed Jacob Hanneman back from the Mariners and DFA'd Freeman.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2017, 02:42:43 pm »
Gotta scapegoat somebody, and the coaches are the most expendable.

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2017, 02:47:46 pm »
 John Mallee‏ @JohnMallee 2h2 hours ago

I would like to thank the Chicago Cubs for the amazing opportunity to be part of a great tradition and organization for the last 3 years.  I left a great Houston Astros organization to be closer to home with my family and to help my hometown team win a World Series.  We did that.
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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2017, 04:34:55 pm »
You have to wonder how much the player exit interviews play into these coaching changes.  If there's frequent anti-"Coach X" sentiment, that could at least partially drive decision making.

I was wondering about that myself. Maybe even not so much player dissatisfaction as revealing information about the game planning, etc coaches provided to players?

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2017, 04:39:00 pm »
"Quote.   Maddon said that the coaching staff shakeup was all about “availability” and who is on the market."

Like Delmar said, the Renteria Syndrome.  Makes good sense to me. 

That would also suggest that Hickey's coming to the Cubs, even if that hasn't been announced yet. 


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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2017, 05:29:21 pm »
Gotta scapegoat somebody, and the coaches are the most expendable.

Certainly the most expendable.  But don't think they needed to scapegoat anybody if they didn't want to.  They've seemed OK with saying how amazing it is to reach LCS back-to-back-to-back, with a world championship in the middle, and how punishing the World series hangover is, etc.. 

If they wanted, could easily have said they liked the cast and were more than willing to take another shot with the same good people. 

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Re: Cubs in '18
« Reply #74 on: October 26, 2017, 06:17:02 pm »
Certainly the most expendable.  But don't think they needed to scapegoat anybody if they didn't want to.  They've seemed OK with saying how amazing it is to reach LCS back-to-back-to-back, with a world championship in the middle, and how punishing the World series hangover is, etc.. 

If they wanted, could easily have said they liked the cast and were more than willing to take another shot with the same good people. 



I'm not 100% sold on that.