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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4515 on: September 29, 2019, 12:50:10 pm »
"Its tough for me and the guys. He's a living legend. I love him like a dad."--Anthony Rizzo

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4516 on: September 29, 2019, 01:43:29 pm »
Jordan Bastian  @MLBastian  54m54 minutes ago
Maddon gathered the team at their hotel after Fridayís game. That is when he informed the players that he would not be coming back.

I have to question the accuracy of that tweet.  Not a single player leaking the news between Friday night and Sunday morning seems unlikely.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4517 on: September 29, 2019, 02:01:17 pm »
Maybe it really did happen that way

Jesse Rogers   @ESPNChiCubs  6m6 minutes ago
Yesterday I tweeted Maddon had been saying goodbye to players for a couple days....team got together with him Fri night....then Theo and front office last night.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4518 on: September 29, 2019, 02:31:39 pm »
Joe is an eternally positive class act!  Theo may not always be positive, but he's a class act, too!

We've been very fortunate to have each of those guys on our side the past 5 years!
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4519 on: September 29, 2019, 02:40:33 pm »
Joe is an eternally positive class act!  Theo may not always be positive

I agree that we have been fortunate to have both of them.  But I don't understand what you mean when say that Theo may not always be positive.  He has been occasionally critical of the team, but that criticism has never been cheap shots, and almost universally believed to be valid.

I spent too many years watching Wrigley, who never really gave a damb if they won or lost.  I don't see the equal of Epstein out there, woth the possible exception of Dumbrowski.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4520 on: September 29, 2019, 04:19:09 pm »
Whomever replaces Joe is going to have a tough row to hoe, following a legend as well as being expected to right the ship after such a disappointing season. Hope Theo chooses well and the new guy is up to the task.

That's one reason someone like Farrell or Girardi - who's been through the wringer and dealt with a tough media market - might make more sense than a rookie manager.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4521 on: September 29, 2019, 04:50:37 pm »
Money will be irrelevant with regard to the next manager.

The team isnít hurting for money. The concern is/was the luxury tax penalties for multiple years over the threshold.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4522 on: September 29, 2019, 04:58:14 pm »
Money will be irrelevant with regard to the next manager.

The team isnít hurting for money. The concern is/was the luxury tax penalties for multiple years over the threshold.

And, those concerns are BS. They have the money and since everyone else is treating this like a salary cap, itís something they can exploit. 

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4523 on: September 29, 2019, 05:13:15 pm »
*sigh* Glad that's over...

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4524 on: September 29, 2019, 05:31:30 pm »
Maddon did what he was brought here to do, did it his way, but it was time for everybody to move on.  No shame in it for anybody concerned.  Thanks for the memories and good luck in San Diego.

This is obviously a beyond huge offseason for the Cubs.  The franchise is in transition in every sense and things could go in any number of directions.  Making a choice on a new manager isnít going to be easy even on philosophical grounds, and thatís the easy part for Theo.  The roster is a mess, the farm is still mostly barren and there are no easy fixes for him.  Itís time for him to earn his money and show the genius who built the WS winners and curse busters in Boston and Chicago is still in there.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4525 on: September 29, 2019, 06:54:00 pm »
And, those concerns are BS. They have the money and since everyone else is treating this like a salary cap, itís something they can exploit. 

You are famous for stupid statements, but that one is near the top.  Can you explain why concerns over the salary cap are BS.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4526 on: September 29, 2019, 07:21:12 pm »
Tyler Chatwood's last appearance - ⅓ of an inning on September 20.

There must have been an injury we weren't told about.


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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4527 on: September 29, 2019, 07:35:06 pm »
You are famous for stupid statements, but that one is near the top.  Can you explain why concerns over the salary cap are BS.

Because they have more than enough money that going past the cap and paying the penalty should not be an issue.  Itís a fictitious cap.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4528 on: September 29, 2019, 07:41:19 pm »
The penalties are not only financial, but also restrict draft choices and IFA money for periods of time.  It if were a fictitious cap, it wouldn't work as well as it does, even for franchises such as the Dodgers and Yankees, who have almost twice the revenue as the Cubs.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #4529 on: September 29, 2019, 08:44:46 pm »
The penalties are not only financial, but also restrict draft choices and IFA money for periods of time.  It if were a fictitious cap, it wouldn't work as well as it does, even for franchises such as the Dodgers and Yankees, who have almost twice the revenue as the Cubs.

Hereís a specific example of penalties.

Cubs will have the #16 overall draft pick next year.

According to Roster Resource, Cubs spent about $34 M over the lowest CBT threshold. Had Cubs spent $6 additional and been $40 over the threshold, that #16 pick would instead become the #26 pickó-moving back 10 spots in the draft.