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Ron

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #315 on: November 01, 2018, 04:43:05 pm »

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As anticipated, the #Cubs have picked up their $6.25 million option on bullpen leader Pedro Strop. Unclear if there will be another "Dress Like Pedro Strop" themed road trip next season.
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Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #316 on: November 01, 2018, 06:24:49 pm »
From ESPN

NEW YORK -- Chicago Cubs outfielder Jason Heyward and San Francisco reliever Mark Melancon let the deadline pass for exercising opt-out provisions in their contracts.

Doing the same were two Cuban outfielders who have been major disappointments and spent all of this season in the minor leagues: Boston's Rusney Castillo and Arizona's Yasmany Tomas.

Heyward keeps the $184 million, eight-year deal that pays him $106 million in the next five seasons. The others all have two years left in their contracts: Melancon is owed $28 million, Tomas $32.5 million and Castillo $24.5 million.

They all had to make their decisions by Wednesday night.

The 29-year-old Heyward, who in 2016 helped the Cubs to their first title in 108 years, hit .270 with eight homers and 58 RBI in 127 games this season. He is owed $20 million in 2019, $21 million in each of the following two seasons and $22 million apiece in the final two years. If he has 550 plate appearances next year, he would again have the right to void the deal and become a free agent.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #317 on: November 01, 2018, 07:56:23 pm »
Sure seems unlikely to me that Cubs would consider Machado.

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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #318 on: November 01, 2018, 08:43:54 pm »
I really don't understand the complete shift on Machado over the past few weeks. I expect the front office to have the same level of interest in him that they would've had if his season had ended a month ago and he hadn't had a couple bad PR days in the last month. In other words, they'll (rightfully) have considerable interest.

The guy is 26 years old and already has accumulated about 31 fWAR/34 rWAR. He just had arguably his best season, and he's still in his prime. It's probably already more likely than not that he's eventually going into the Hall of Fame. This front office is too smart to change their minds about a player based on one month of bad PR in a 6 1/2 year (HOF-pace) career.

Unless there is some new story that I haven't seen yet, I am confident they'll be talking to his agent regularly this offseason.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #319 on: November 01, 2018, 09:20:00 pm »
Give me Machado over Harper.
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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #320 on: November 01, 2018, 09:42:22 pm »
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#Cubs might make a trade to clear salary before picking up Hamels’ $20M option, sources tell The Athletic. At this point, a long-term deal for Hamels is unlikely. If Cubs decline option and make Hamels a free agent, #Rangers will pay his $6M buyout. But goal is to keep him.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #321 on: November 01, 2018, 09:54:43 pm »
As I've mentioned before, Machado didn't have a sterling reputation even prior to his playoff shenanigans. The front office seems to like "character" guys like Heyward more. Can't imagine they're interested in Machado at this point.
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ben

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #322 on: November 01, 2018, 10:14:15 pm »
Agree, Chris.
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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #323 on: November 02, 2018, 09:42:47 am »
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The #Cubs are picking up Cole Hamels' $20 million option today, according to sources. In a related move, they're trading pitcher Drew Smiley to the #Rangers.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #324 on: November 02, 2018, 09:46:28 am »
Too bad they couldn't convince the Rangers to take Kintzler instead.
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Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #325 on: November 02, 2018, 09:52:58 am »
Quote from: brjones on November 02, 2018, 09:42:47 am
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
The #Cubs are picking up Cole Hamels' $20 million option today, according to sources. In a related move, they're trading pitcher Drew Smiley to the #Rangers.
The Hamels decision had to be made by today.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #326 on: November 02, 2018, 10:40:53 am »
Locking in Hamels and trading Smyly leaves the 40-man roster at 36.

By 4:00 p.m. Central today, the Cubs have to empty their 60-day disabled list.  If they simply transfer those players to the 40-man, that will make it full at 40.

Currently on the 60-day DL:

Yu Darvish
Justin Hancock
Brandon Morrow
Drew Smyly (reportedly gone)
Mark Zagunis
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craig

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #327 on: November 02, 2018, 10:46:18 am »
Interesting. 

1.  Had hoped Smyly might be one of the surprise get-some-value guys next year, whether in bullpen, or maybe even in rotation. 

2.  Will be interesting if the "trade" actually returns any talent value, or if it's basically a salary dump, with some token non-prospect coming in return? 

3.  If the Cubs were to get to the World Series, would they be able to set any records for the older rotation in baseball history?  They are REALLY getting old, older, and oldest.  Memory is shallow, but I can't ever remember a Cubs rotation that was even close to this old-old-old. 

4.  Given Hamels age, and that I think his stuff is generally in decline, I'm kinda glad the Cubs just took the big-dollar one-year deal, rather than extending and committing more long-term money.  (I'm lazy baseball reference guy, but he's coming off 3.78 and 4.20 ERA's, with FIP's of 4.49 and 4.62.  One of the other FIP's is probably better and more favorable, but the numbers aren't that hot, and at age 35 he's not likely to get a lot faster or better.....)

5.  I wonder how this worked with Texas?  Had they let him go, Texas would have got socked with $6M bill.  So, I wonder whether Cubs told them "We're not going to pay $7 for Smyly and $20 for Hamels.  So, would you like to pay $6 for Hamels?  Or would you rather pay $7 and get Smyly?" 
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #328 on: November 02, 2018, 10:48:56 am »
Wonder how much cash came in the Smyly trade?  "Look, Rangers, we're going to decline Hamels' option which will cost you 6 mil, or we can send you Drew Smyly for 6 mil and pick up the option."  Meaning, less Smyly, we're paying Hamels $12.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #329 on: November 02, 2018, 10:49:48 am »
Craig on the same page.
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