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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #705 on: November 17, 2018, 12:21:34 pm »
I think Harper and Machado will move pretty early. But I think it's also likely that most of the secondary names (Donaldson, McCutchen, Pollock, etc.) will be waiting as long as Darvish and JD Martinez waited last year.

I could players who otherwise might have to take bench jobs or minor league contracts moving pretty fast to take the first offer they get. We might have seen the start of this in the last couple of days with Jeff Mathis and Steve Pearce signing pretty quickly.

CUBluejays

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« Reply #706 on: November 17, 2018, 01:14:57 pm »
Unless the Phillies go nuts, Machado is going to sign before Harper so that Boras knows what number he has to beat. Once Machado signs I could see the rest market sorting itself out fairly quickly.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #707 on: November 17, 2018, 02:18:19 pm »

Somebody suggested a Heyward for Cano trade. Cano for 5 more years is scary without a DH in the NL, but he’d be an upgrade on offense...

Yeah, a good way to upgrade the offense: Cano in place of Russell and Harper in place of Heyward.

That’s a lot of runs (even though lose runs on defense).

Let’s see Theo pull that off.

Deeg

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« Reply #708 on: November 17, 2018, 05:10:07 pm »
I think you would have to change the "or" to "and" to that trade to make it appealing.

Even if you eat half Heyward's deal, as I said?  He's still the best RF in baseball defensively and above-average in center.

CurtOne

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« Reply #709 on: November 17, 2018, 05:23:48 pm »
I think the perception of other teams is that the Cubs are dealing from weakness.  They have pitchers losing velocity, pitchers injured, players like Schwarber, Heyward, Contreras, Russell playing below expectations, Russell with additional baggage.  It will be interesting to see if the FO makes a magic deal or they say the hell with it and pray the players turn it around. 

craig

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« Reply #710 on: November 17, 2018, 07:25:55 pm »
Yeah, I think to large degree they need to just take their chances and go with the same guys. 

I wonder if the Cubs maybe think their guys are better than other teams think they are?  Making a sensible trade kind of requires that the other side has similar (or higher) valuation of the talent you've got. 

CUBluejays

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« Reply #711 on: November 17, 2018, 07:56:18 pm »
That has been an issue from what I’ve read.

How do you value a guy like Happ with 5 years of control, 2 seasons of above average offense and a strike out problem. He has positional flexibility even if he isn’t great on offense. You wouldn’t trade him for a non-stud relief pitcher, but would he actually get one?  Starting pitching isn’t a need, but he’s bringing back more of a league averaging guy and that doesn’t really help the Cubs. If you are trading him for an offensive player you are going to have to get a guy with less control, but who is out there?  Say he’s part of a deal for Merrifield, there is a decent chance Happ could be more valuable on offense. They have the same career wRC+, but Happ alone likely wouldn’t get him.

Improving the offense and trading Schwarber is even harder.

Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #712 on: November 17, 2018, 07:59:14 pm »
Maybe Schwarber would be enough of a sweetener to get somebody to take Heyward’s contract. That’s a thought if you somehow sign Harper.

Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #713 on: November 20, 2018, 01:36:35 pm »
Mark Gonzales  @MDGonzales  2m2 minutes ago

40-man roster now at 38.


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INF Jack Reinheimer claimed off waivers by Rangers.

Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #714 on: November 20, 2018, 01:41:10 pm »
The Rangers also outrighted former Cub Eddie Butler.

Bennett

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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #716 on: November 20, 2018, 04:48:04 pm »
Everything’s normal, nothing to see here.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #717 on: November 20, 2018, 05:20:18 pm »
Rogers is tweeting it is personal and nothing to do with Madden.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #718 on: November 20, 2018, 05:52:42 pm »
Trump is tweeting that Hickey could have gotten Bin Laden sooner.
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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #719 on: November 20, 2018, 05:58:09 pm »
Rogers is tweeting it is personal and nothing to do with Madden.

That's so off-base it makes absolutely no sense, when it was Maddon who got Hickey hired in the first place.

No, it's not Maddon - it's Theo, and it's a message to Maddon.