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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #720 on: November 20, 2018, 06:04:31 pm »
Relief depth:

Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales
Cubs acquire pitcher Rowan Wick from Padres for infielder Jason Vosler. Wick will be added to 40-man roster.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #721 on: November 20, 2018, 06:10:22 pm »
If they are sending Madden a message why not fire him with Chili?  Why the delay?  ESPN radio in Chicago suggest the delay was due to him possibly taking a different job in the org.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #722 on: November 20, 2018, 06:21:42 pm »
Relief depth:

Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales
Cubs acquire pitcher Rowan Wick from Padres for infielder Jason Vosler. Wick will be added to 40-man roster.


Don't see much there, but it's not like Vosler has any real value.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #723 on: November 20, 2018, 06:38:19 pm »
Wick is a former position player that converted to pitching.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #724 on: November 20, 2018, 07:34:40 pm »
Maybe Wick is the next Jacob deGrom?  (position player turned pitcher) 

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #725 on: November 20, 2018, 07:38:11 pm »
Cubs outrighted Vasto and Field and rostered Steele.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #726 on: November 20, 2018, 09:01:57 pm »
Maybe Wick is the next Jacob deGrom?  (position player turned pitcher) 

:)

Wick can't hold a candle to deGrom.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #727 on: November 20, 2018, 10:36:54 pm »
Interesting with Hickey.  deeg, of course you view and assume all things through the political filter of a Maddon/Theo power struggle.  And it's entirely possible that such a struggle exists and that Hickey is/was very much a player in such a conflict. 

But I think it's maybe at least possible that it really is personal and has nothing to do with Theo or Maddon?  It's a long season and a long career, and I'd think those coaches could have their own drugs and alcohol and marital problems all their own.  So too might a spouse left behind at home.  Plus family issues can come with life with kids needing help with stuff;  and Hickey's old enough where his parents might need help with stuff.   

To some degree the timing seems oddly late/slow *IF* this was really a case of Theo firing him?  If Theo and admin had decided that Hickey hadn't handled the staff well and would continue to fail to do so, I'm not sure I see how waiting until Thanksgiving would have been the standard or logical timeline?  Or why it would have taken them two months of post-season to reach that conclusion?  But **if** there were some personal things he was working through, or needed some time to see how a situation would develop, that might seem entirely consistent with this late announcement? 
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #728 on: November 20, 2018, 10:41:22 pm »
Wick can't hold a candle to deGrom.
A pun worthy of P2
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #729 on: November 20, 2018, 11:31:10 pm »
Craig, just to be clear I don’t see a power struggle. Theo has power and Joe doesn’t. As long as Theo is happy with Joe, that works out fine for everybody. When he isn’t...

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #730 on: November 21, 2018, 12:55:45 pm »
Jessie Rogers on Kapman confirmed it was in fact a personal issue that Hickey doesn't want to make public, it wasn't performance based.

Suggested that Tommy Hottovy will get promoted as the pitching coach.  He doesn't think it will be Price, Ferrell or Bosio.  The Assistant Hitting coach is still up in air, the might have missed out on their first choice.

Suggested their have been talks with Mariners and threw out Diaz's name as a possible target, I took it as more of a guess than an actual rumor.

He is guessing that the Cubs will tender Russell.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #731 on: November 21, 2018, 01:14:38 pm »
The Mariners have several guys who could help the Cubs. But given how DiPoto has been talking, it sounds like they really don't want to trade Diaz. I can't imagine the Cubs having the pieces to give up for him--I wouldn't be surprised of they insisted on Contreras, which is a non-starter for me.

I do wonder if Haniger might be a little more available than it seems he should be. He's going to play next season at 28, so he'd be 30-31 by the time the Mariners are ready to compete (using DiPoto's overly optimistic 2021 timeframe as a guide). He'd be a perfect fit for this lineup.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #732 on: November 21, 2018, 02:25:51 pm »
Like Happ+?

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #733 on: November 21, 2018, 02:28:38 pm »
Sign harper, send Schwarber and Happ off for Noah.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #734 on: November 21, 2018, 02:36:33 pm »
Longenhagen on Wick/Vosler trade:

“Wick is a capable, generic middle reliever. He works 93-96, has an above-average slider, and a change-of-pace curveball.

Vosler is a an extreme fly ball hitter (over 50%) with huge platoon splits. He might be just a 30 bat, but Vosler can play third and first and he crushes lefties; I think he’s a corner bench bat or platoon player.”