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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #855 on: November 30, 2018, 04:16:13 pm »
I wont stop when I believe what I believe is right.

A woman isnt always right or always the victim just because she's a woman.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #856 on: November 30, 2018, 04:40:40 pm »
Just to show you who were dealing with here Addison's ex recently put on her instagram that part of her recovery consisted of a new boob job.

You’re a boob job.


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« Reply #857 on: November 30, 2018, 04:49:26 pm »
Reds will non- tender Billy Hamilton. Should the Cubs be a perspective landing spot for the veteran speedster.--Levine

Yes.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #858 on: November 30, 2018, 05:06:23 pm »
I wont stop when I believe what I believe is right.

A woman isnt always right or always the victim just because she's a woman.

Are you suggesting that he didn’t do anything wrong?

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« Reply #859 on: November 30, 2018, 05:15:30 pm »
Look, at minimum, Russell engaged in criminal assault. He didn’t have to “beat her on a regular basis” to be engaged in criminal simple assault. Physical menace—even without hitting/touching—is assault in most jurisdictions when intended to cause fear of harm. He has not denied that he did at least that much, as far as I can tell.

Russell is fortunate he didn’t end up in criminal proceedings in some fashion and Cubs and MLB are doing the right thing by taking this very seriously. It’s not useful to mitigate anything about this situation by enphasizing that he didn’t do something worse.

For all we know the "laid his hands on me" was him physically restraining her after SHE became violent with him, and that is assuming every word of what she has written was true and that she in no way exaggerated.  He may still have not "engaged in criminal assault."

You say he is "fortunate he didn’t end up in criminal proceedings in some fashion," but if he engaged in no criminal contact, then not being charged is not "fortunate," it is perfectly appropriate.

Many of you are eager to assume the worst here.

I am not even addressing the issue of whether her comments are the result of being a woman scorned or exaggeration or being a "gold digger" (Dusty's speculation) or having a distorted perception of what happened because she is looking at it all from her perspective.

I am taking everything she has written or been quoted as saying at face value and assuming every word of it to be the absolute truth.... and it is still quite easy to envision circumstances in which, even though everything she has claimed is true, he did nothing remotely close to criminal.  For those dismissing that possibility based on the fact that he accepted the suspension, he likely was acting on the advice of counsel, and it is easy to imagine an attorney advising him to let it go to avoid criminal prosecution, even though he did nothing wrong.  Domestic violence cases may at one time have been ignored and dismissed, and prosecuting attorney's and juries or judges may once have done nothing, but that has not been the case for about 20 years now (the O.J. case had a huge impact).  I have personally seen cases in which a husband was jailed for months awaiting trail when the only allegation against him was A) he tried to walk around his wife in the hallway when he was holding their two-year-old child in his arms and she was trying to block his way (he came into contact with her, but even she said he never pushed her or TRIED to push her out of the way); and B) after he was arrested and forced out of his house and given a no-contact order as a condition of his bond, he was foolish enough to go back home to have dinner with her before trial when she called him and ASKED him to come home to discuss reconciliation.

These cases can get very bad, very fast, even when the guy did not do a damn thing.

Am I saying Russell is a saint?

Of course not.  I am simply saying we have no reasonable basis to conclude he has ever been responsible for any physical abuse.
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Jes Beard

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« Reply #860 on: November 30, 2018, 05:18:26 pm »
You’re a boob job.


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I have taken more than a few swipes at Dusty, but this was entirely unwarranted.  As is frequently the case with insults, and that includes any I have ever tossed, they tells us quite a bit about the person tossing them.  They tell us nothing at all about the target of the insult.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #861 on: November 30, 2018, 05:20:18 pm »
What's Bobby Derneir up to these days?

I was thinking more along the lines of Kenny Lofton.

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« Reply #862 on: November 30, 2018, 05:26:10 pm »
Every now and then I click on the "show me the post" option for posts by Dusty or Jes. Today I did that and received vivid reminders for why I have both on "ignore."
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« Reply #863 on: November 30, 2018, 05:34:03 pm »
What did Ron say?  I have him on Ignore.
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« Reply #864 on: November 30, 2018, 05:58:30 pm »
Only a woman GM would have released him.

Im glad Theo and Jed werent as quick to castrate him as some here.


The system really needs to be changed so that a post can be rated twice.  How can one possible choose between "sad" and "dumb" here?
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Re: Cubs in '19
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« Reply #866 on: November 30, 2018, 06:32:16 pm »
Some buzz that the Cubs are trying to get in on Realmuto and would deal Contreras.  If they could pull that off wth the incoming and outgoing value being close, that would be a big upgrade.

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« Reply #867 on: November 30, 2018, 06:35:46 pm »
Here's a non-tender I could see the Cubs being interested in:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/solarya01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-

He had a .655 OPS this past year,  a .731 the year before,  is 31,  has a career range of less than the league average in every position he has played,  and has stolen only 6 bases in more than 2,500 career MLB AB.

Do you want the Cubs to sign him just so you can have some legitimacy when your complain that the Cubs are the worst organization in professional sports?

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« Reply #868 on: November 30, 2018, 06:37:50 pm »
No Cletus Im not suggesting he didnt do anything wrong.

What Im saying is we have no more reason to believe her than we do Addison and if he was playing better more people would believe him.

Case in point being Aroldis Chapman.
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« Reply #869 on: November 30, 2018, 06:38:26 pm »
I wasn't really clear on the Realmuto rumor...the Bleacher Nation write-up on the rumor seems to indicate it would be a swap of Contreras for Realmuto. But the original tweet from Craig Mish that started the speculation sounded more like the Cubs would trade for Realmuto, then spin Contreras somewhere else for an upgrade at a different position.

Trading for Realmuto then spinning Contreras in a deal for an outfielder or middle infielder who is a significant upgrade could be a really interesting move. But if it's just Contreras for Realmuto straight up, I'd rather keep the extra two years of control in Contreras.
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