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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #885 on: November 30, 2018, 09:53:44 pm »
Many of us often are critical of players and executives who fail to take responsibility for off-field transgressions. Addison Russell’s statement is encouraging, and Theo Epstein’s is even better - a model for how a team should deal with a player who commits domestic violence.--Rosenthal
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« Reply #886 on: November 30, 2018, 10:49:40 pm »
I don't think comparing MLB to the NFL in how they handle these domestic cases is fair.  Remember, the NFL deals more harshly with these things because of the total clusterf#ck they made of the Rice situation.  They got so much flack, they've dealt more swiftly since.  MLB has been able to learn from that.  Odd that so many RP's get in this mess.  Wonder if it has anything to do with the stress of their jobs.
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« Reply #887 on: December 01, 2018, 03:24:44 am »
Quote from: DUSTY on November 30, 2018, 08:20:10 pm
When there was a video showing him whooping her ass and not just a jaded ex's word.

As I have pointed out, the real question with Russell is NOT just the credibility of he ex.

The real question is exactly what it is that she alleges.

Take every word she has said as the absolute truth and there are still far more possible circumstances she could have been describing which were NOT criminal conduct by Russell than possible circumstances that were.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #888 on: December 01, 2018, 06:26:04 am »
Deeg, they just cleared space on the 40 man.  I'm speculating that there could be a move soon.
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« Reply #889 on: December 01, 2018, 06:39:06 am »
Ah, makes sense Play. My guess is they’re going to sign one of the other non-tenders, but I don’t know if you’d consider that a big move or not...
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #890 on: December 01, 2018, 12:46:39 pm »
Ronald Torreyes, INF (non-tendered by Cubs)
Chicago acquired Torreyes in a trade with the Yankees last Wednesday before non-tendering him Friday. In four seasons, he's slashed .281/.310/.375.

Wait!! What?
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #891 on: December 03, 2018, 06:15:31 pm »
The more I think about a potential Haniger/Seager deal the better I like it from a Cubs perspective - if they weren't crying poverty of course.  Not only has Haniger been a very productive hitter but his D is outstanding in RF and he can even play an acceptable center, and his O numbers will likely improve if he's liberated from Safeco. A 4/100 deal for a "FA" Haniger in his prime sounds better than a 10/350 deal for Harper.
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« Reply #892 on: December 03, 2018, 06:28:25 pm »
But again, the Mariners seem to be prioritizing getting money off the books for 2021 and beyond rather than having a cheap payroll immediately. If the Cubs were willing to take all of Seager's deal in 2021, I don't think requiring them to take Chatwood back would kill the deal. That would reduce the hit on the luxury tax to something like $7-$8 million. I think that's the more important number at this point. Then get them to take Kintzler or Duensing too and it becomes really manageable.

I don't think that money is the biggest obstacle to a Haniger/Seager deal. I think it's more likely that the Cubs don't have the players the Mariners would want (unless they really love Amaya or Happ).
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« Reply #893 on: December 03, 2018, 06:36:48 pm »
Based on how low they’ve been selling so far I think this is a fire sale more than a talent hunt for them. The priority is the long-term salary they’re dumping, not the players they’re getting back.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #894 on: December 03, 2018, 07:59:20 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on December 03, 2018, 06:15:31 pm
Not only has Haniger been a very productive hitter but his D is outstanding in RF and he can even play an acceptable center

What do you use to come up with your defensive assessments?
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« Reply #895 on: December 03, 2018, 09:09:59 pm »
Well apart from FP he looks pretty damn good in most of them.  You like DRS: 17 in the past two seasons in RF (despite missing substantial time last year and some starts n center). 6.1 UZR150 in in 2017. 2nd to Betts in DRS last season.
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« Reply #896 on: December 03, 2018, 09:30:25 pm »
Toss an offer of Russell, Happ and Chatwood to the Ms for Haniger and Seager and see if they bite.  Almost surely not, but maybe the salary relied would tempt them a little.

Haniger is a pipe dream, so I hate getting too excited over him.  But he's basically a .900 OPS guy on the road the last two seasons, and guys who OPS .900 on the road with plus defense are pretty much MVP candidates most of the time.
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« Reply #897 on: December 03, 2018, 09:55:50 pm »
None of those numbers scream elite or outstanding defense.

DRS is my least favorite, but we can start there. Haniger 14 in 1976 career innings in RF and 17 over the 1800 or so innings. . Very few guys qualified in 2018, but Betts led the league with 20. In 2017 Betts had 31, Puig 18 and Heyward 18.

Of the more conventional advanced stats I like UZR/150 better. Haniger a career 3.2. Which is just a touch higher than average. Betts is 18.8, Heyward 13.  Cargo has a career 4.5.

What I really like is the Statcast OAA. Haniger was a -4 there and a -1 in catch probability added.

Haniger is a perfectly average RF, who you don’t want playing CF.


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« Reply #898 on: December 03, 2018, 10:06:02 pm »
Keep at it, by the law of averages one of these rants is going to be remotely convincing sooner or later.
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« Reply #899 on: December 03, 2018, 10:12:13 pm »
Quote from: Deeg on December 03, 2018, 09:30:25 pm
Toss an offer of Russell, Happ and Chatwood to the Ms for Haniger and Seager and see if they bite.  Almost surely not, but maybe the salary relied would tempt them a little.

I think you have to replace Russell with someone who has value. No one wants to give up anything to get him on their team right now. But yeah, Cubs should be all in on trying to get Haniger until he's traded or it's clear he's staying in Seattle. Getting him would come close to making up for not seriously pursuing Yelich last year.
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