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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #945 on: December 07, 2018, 06:44:24 pm »
How do we know Soria is going to cheap? 

The Rockies spending a crap ton of money on the bullpen worked out well for them....

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« Reply #946 on: December 07, 2018, 06:51:06 pm »
Soria has the 10th highest fWAR and 5th best FIP among major league relievers over the last two years. He's a good target, especially if he can be signed for a reasonable price.

Sign Soria, trade for one of the Giants' lefties (preferably Smith, but Watson is good too). Should be a relatively affordable way to address the bullpen.

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« Reply #947 on: December 07, 2018, 07:02:41 pm »
If age was the issue with Chavez, why isn't it with Soria? 

Soria is another guy who's a ticking time bomb - he's going to be on the downward slide soon enough, though maybe you're lucky and avoid it if you sign him to a 1-year deal (which I don't expect him to take).  He's not a dominating pitcher but as he is (or was), he's solid.  If he's cheap enough, fine - but like most FAs, he's going to get paid based on past performance and not future projection.  I'd rather take a flyer on Cody Allen.

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« Reply #948 on: December 07, 2018, 07:04:29 pm »
Trevor Rosenthal would have been nice.

I played golf with a dude one time who claimed to be related to him.

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« Reply #949 on: December 07, 2018, 08:23:18 pm »
Heyman’s most recent club-by-club roundup links Soria to about 6 or so clubs. Seems like Soria might land just about anywhere.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #950 on: December 08, 2018, 07:46:27 pm »
Schwarber & Quintana for Kluber.  Who says no?

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« Reply #951 on: December 08, 2018, 07:47:43 pm »
What is his contract status?

Deeg

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« Reply #952 on: December 08, 2018, 07:51:34 pm »
AFAIK signed for next year with team options for 20 and 21.


Edit: $17.5 and $18 million options (club) for 20-21.

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« Reply #953 on: December 08, 2018, 07:55:34 pm »
Schwarber & Quintana for Kluber.  Who says no?
Cleveland.

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« Reply #954 on: December 08, 2018, 08:13:16 pm »
Cleveland has no interest in Quintana. They're only trading Kluber/Bauer because they want to reduce their payroll. Quintana and Schwarber combined will be making almost as much as Kluber.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #955 on: December 08, 2018, 08:28:43 pm »
They are still trying to win, though, and that gives them two pieces for slightly less than the price of 1.

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« Reply #956 on: December 08, 2018, 08:33:29 pm »
But those two pieces combined are worth less than Kluber. He's obviously one of the top 4 starters in baseball over the past 5 years (with Scherzer, Kershaw, and Sale). Schwarber is a platoon outfielder, and Quintana's value has taken a huge hit in the last year--he's nowhere close to a top 15 or so starter anymore.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #957 on: December 08, 2018, 08:38:36 pm »
Heh heh, deeg, if you can somehow trick Cleveland into swallowing that dream deal, that would obviously be too ridiculously good to be true. 

Of course, even if you did get that implausibly done, Kluber would then probably get hurt right away or something. 

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #958 on: December 08, 2018, 08:42:39 pm »
Hey, I think they'd say no too.  But this has been such a boring offseason that I'm desperate for something to talk about.

How about Schwarber, Alzolay and Happ?

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #959 on: December 08, 2018, 08:46:56 pm »
I'd hate to trade Schwarber.

Hate it.