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brjones

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1080 on: December 14, 2018, 02:05:40 pm »
Cubs in strong pursuit of Daniel Descalso according to Rosenthal.

craig

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1081 on: December 14, 2018, 02:10:45 pm »
I imagine they are always looking for bargains, and monitor multiple dozens of guys of interest, in hopes that their price might unexpectedly fall from "that's too much" into "good value" realm.  I'm sure it rarely happens, but I think by Cubs account it has happened in a couple of significant occasions.
One was the great Heyward steal, Theo and Maddon had loved the guy, but didn't think they could afford him.  But then it turned out there was a chance, and their age-based analytics scouted his best-hitting years were coming up, that there was more power to be gained from the Cubs coaching and launch-angle analysis, and they got him for the $184, and the rest is history. 

In both the Hewyard year, and the Tanaka year, Theo has talked about having spending flexibility.  I think Hendry tended to get one-year budgets, and he normally felt it was his obligation to the fans to spend out his budget to try to assemble the most competitive team he could.  But Theo I think has more flexibility.  He talked about with the Heyward pickup, where he thought the value was too good to pass up, that he was allowed to kind of "borrow forward", and borrow money from the next year; and he got authorization from Crane Kennedy to pay beyond what the suggested budget had really authorized.  I assume some of that flexibility remains in play now, such that *IF* a really-good-value pickup became available, they could possible "borrow forward" again. 

I suspect Yu may have been another case.  The word had been that their budget was limited, and that they were kind of saving for this year that was supposed to have a bigger field.  But then I think Yu with his World Series collapse and the pitch-tipping and everything, his market wasn't as strong as deeg had expected, or maybe Theo either.  So, by Theo's account, when Yu got slightly more affordable then they expected, and given their pitching-rotation needs, they somehow got the flexibilty to take the plunge last year.  AGain, I suspect they were partly "borrowing forward", and trying to take their best shot before their window kept slimming.  Plus, I assume they are always doing some revenue-guessing; the revenue for a team that plays into the world series and has a bundle of extra home games is significantly larger than for the one-game playoffs that the Cubs hosted.  So the revenue may have been some handfuls of millions less than they had projected? 

But, I would assume that **IF** a price drops low enough, that Theo may again be able to make a case to borrow forward, and that the window is going to shrink and they should take their shots while they can? 


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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1082 on: December 14, 2018, 02:39:04 pm »
Bleacher Nation write-up on Descalso from about a week ago:

https://www.bleachernation.com/2018/12/07/you-know-what-surprising-free-agent-is-actually-worth-discussing-daniel-descalso/

Descalso is a poor man's Ben Zobrist. There has been speculation that Zobrist could be traded to free up money, and that speculation would just grow if the Cubs did end up signing Descalso.

He'd also probably fill the "veteran leadership" role the Cubs are looking for.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1083 on: December 14, 2018, 03:02:12 pm »
Descalso is an improvement from LaStella, but he'd be a downgrade from Zobrist.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1084 on: December 14, 2018, 05:33:01 pm »
Cubs in strong pursuit of Daniel Descalso according to Rosenthal.

Precursor to a Zobrist salary dump?

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« Reply #1085 on: December 14, 2018, 05:37:17 pm »
Clearing space for Harper.

Im still not convinced we dont sign him.

Jes Beard

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1086 on: December 14, 2018, 06:24:00 pm »
Cubs in strong pursuit of Daniel Descalso according to Rosenthal.

WHY?

I genuinely would not think the Theocracy would want the guy on the 25 man roster even if the Cubs had to pay him nothing.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1087 on: December 14, 2018, 06:27:42 pm »
He is dog ****.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1088 on: December 14, 2018, 08:27:16 pm »
Cubs are one of the teams that has at least been in contact with Tulo, and they will send a scout to a workout. There are others though, so they aren’t necessarily the favorite. His agent told @susanslusser there are 6 teams and they will narrow field soon.--Heyman

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1089 on: December 14, 2018, 09:14:18 pm »
Descalso is an improvement from LaStella, but he'd be a downgrade from Zobrist.

I would just as soon have Descalso as Merwin Gonzalez.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1090 on: December 14, 2018, 09:30:26 pm »
I would just as soon have Descalso as Merwin Gonzalez.

Obviously if the money were remotely close you should much rather have Gonzales - clearly a much better player.  But presumably also much more expensive.  And since the Cubs couldn't afford Jesse Chavez and there's speculation even Descalso is too rich for their blood, the odds of them going after Marwin are effectively zero.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1091 on: December 14, 2018, 09:36:24 pm »
Suspect part of the Descalzo interest might be the veteran leadership stuff?  Descalzo went to college at Cal, and he's a Cardinals system product.

Also, maybe they kinda spent ahead and used this year's money to sign Yu last year; and hoped that a strong playoff run would pay for it anyway? 

 

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1092 on: December 14, 2018, 09:54:02 pm »
Descalso would be a useful addition. Last two seasons combined, his iso has averaged .180 per season. So, he now seems to have some pop. An upgrade over La Stella. Don’t think any more to it than that. Seems unlikely would impact Zobrist’s tenure here. There’s a 25-man roster spot for Descalso and when Russell comes back in May, Bote could be optioned assuming ALL of the other position players are healthy and only one spot available for Descalso/Bote.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1093 on: December 14, 2018, 10:52:19 pm »
Cubs one of 6 teams to reach out to Tulo. On a minimum deal without any guarantees of playing time I see very little downside.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1094 on: December 14, 2018, 11:05:39 pm »
Cubs one of 6 teams to reach out to Tulo. On a minimum deal without any guarantees of playing time I see very little downside.

I just read this article on Tulowitzki, and I think it provides a pretty clear idea of why the Cubs would be interested in him, given all the talk about needing a veteran to play the role Rossy played in 2016.

https://theathletic.com/714852/2018/12/14/lott-as-he-leaves-the-blue-jays-troy-tulowitzki-deserves-thanks-for-the-memories/