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Jack Birdbath

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1155 on: December 18, 2018, 08:22:29 pm »
The odds that DaveP does not know who Sinclair is are approximately 0%.
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« Reply #1156 on: December 18, 2018, 08:42:17 pm »
Cubs are denying any deal with Sinclair.

Are there any examples of politics creeping into The Tennis Channel?

Ron

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1157 on: December 18, 2018, 08:46:47 pm »

Bruce Levine
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Breaking news -The Chicago Cubs are denying they have a deal in place for a new regional network with Sinclair broadcasting . Industry sources say Sinclair is certainly a front runner to become a partner .

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« Reply #1158 on: December 18, 2018, 08:50:40 pm »
Deny, deny, deny...  The Ricketts know the playbook very well.

It's not totally impossible they floated this to see just how much outrage it would cause, of course.  In which case I hope the furor continues to be attention-grabbing for them.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1159 on: December 18, 2018, 08:55:08 pm »
Board has gone to ****.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1160 on: December 18, 2018, 09:47:20 pm »
Sinclair are Trump supporters right?

Arent the Rickett's clan democrats?

If they dont care to do business with them then why should anyone else?

BTW...

I only know who Sinclair is because they own Ring Of Honor wrestling.

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« Reply #1161 on: December 18, 2018, 09:50:56 pm »
I am no fan of most of the Ricketts family, as far as their politics goes (which really should not be part of this topic). But this notion that their politics is simplistic is neither accurate nor relevant to baseball decisions.  I know a little about the Ricketts family as well as their involvement with the Cubs and the neighborhood surrounding Wrigley Field. I live 1.5 miles from the ballpark, have a long history as a Cub fan, as well as of involvement in Chicago politics and have followed all of the machinations (political and otherwise) around the family and the ballpark pretty closely.

First, the family is not a monolithic family politically. Joe (father, and least involved with the Cubs) is a funder of right wing politicians and causes (I don't expect anyone to disagree with this). Pete Ricketts, who has had no involvement with the Cubs, is a conservative/right wing Republican Governor of Nebraska. Todd is a very conservative or even right wing guy who almost went to work for the Trump administration. Todd has little (if any) direct involvement with the Cubs. Tom, who is the guy who actually operates as the active owner of the Cubs, whatever his politics, has avoided being directly involved in politics at least since his direct involvement with the Cubs. Laura, is the second most involved member of the Ricketts family with the Cubs. She is a Democrat, an Obama bundler, a lesbian and major supporter of liberal causes. The guy hired by Tom Ricketts to run the Cubs, Theo Epstein, is a liberal Democrat.

The local alderman, who resisted many of the changes at Wrigley Field, is being challenged by a liberal Democrat (who worked in the Obama administration and in Democratic Governor Patrick Quinn's administration), as well as a couple of other challengers (one a Republican). The incumbent has weirdly accused his primary challenger as being a tool of the right wing Ricketts.  It does appear that Laura Ricketts may support him, though is not contributing to his campaign. So people, for whatever purposes, have confused the Rickett's conflicting politics to support their own points of view.

Being offended by the politics of the right wing portion of the Ricketts family led one member of the board to conclude that the primary interest of the family in taking over ownership of the Cubs was a business decision, and that their greed would prevent them from investing heavily in the team. Well, that clearly turned out not to be the case. So, I'd suggest we take care about repeating this mistake.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1162 on: December 18, 2018, 10:33:24 pm »
Add deadbeat Dad to the Addison Russell resume:

https://twitter.com/AllyPruitt1/status/1075138896562925576

Apparently when he did pay his child support, Addy was fond of doing so in rolls of quarters.

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« Reply #1163 on: December 18, 2018, 10:35:52 pm »
Ron, you can believe whatever you wish about the Ricketts family (though I do ROFL at the use of one outlier as an exemplar of some kind of political balance) or their intentions.  But the Sinclair matter goes far beyond left-right politics.  The damage they've done to local journalism in America is already incalculable.

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« Reply #1164 on: December 18, 2018, 10:46:44 pm »
Ron, you can believe whatever you wish about the Ricketts family (though I do ROFL at the use of one outlier as an exemplar of some kind of political balance) or their intentions.  But the Sinclair matter goes far beyond left-right politics.  The damage they've done to local journalism in America is already incalculable.

I would appreciate it if you did not mis-characterize what I wrote ("exemplar of some kind of political balance"). And that one outlier (which she surely is, politically) is also easily the second most involved member of the family when it comes to the Cubs. If you have reason to believe otherwise, please feel free to make your case. I also hope that you acknowledge that you were wrong in your initial certainty that Tom Ricketts would not be willing to heavily invest in the Cubs.  As to Sinclair, I will be very disappointed if they become the Cubs' partner. Let's see if that actually happens.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1165 on: December 18, 2018, 10:53:26 pm »
And you see nothing troubling in the way the Ricketts have seemingly hobbled the Cubs financially in the midst of what should have been an offseason of huge opportunity for them?

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1166 on: December 18, 2018, 11:09:28 pm »
Add deadbeat Dad to the Addison Russell resume:

Great job tendering him, Cubs.

The team is crying poor, but they decided to give $4-$5 million to this guy. Awful decision.
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1167 on: December 18, 2018, 11:20:19 pm »
Crying poor? How much should the payroll be?

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1168 on: December 18, 2018, 11:28:08 pm »
And you see nothing troubling in the way the Ricketts have seemingly hobbled the Cubs financially in the midst of what should have been an offseason of huge opportunity for them?

Tell you what. I'll answer this question after you answer the one I asked you.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1169 on: December 18, 2018, 11:49:54 pm »
Crying poor? How much should the payroll be?

They're giving $4 million (or more) to a defense-only shortstop who is an admitted domestic abuser. If they can throw money at that guy when they could've just non-tendered him, I have a hard time believing they're having trouble to find money for someone like Joakim Soria.