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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1170 on: December 19, 2018, 12:20:25 am »
They have a $220 million payroll for the CBT.  Some otherwise smart people have been truly stupid in this thread of late. The only thing hobbling the Cubs payroll is spending $52.5 million on Hamels/Darvish/Chatwood.

I’ll ask again is their any indication that Sinclair has injected politics into the Tennis channel? 

If the Cubs do partner with Sinclair it sounds like Sinclair would be the distrubator and the Cubs would retain majority ownership. That is a great deal for the Cubs. If they are paid money for their rights it subject to revenue sharing. Ownership profits (fees, ads, etc..) aren’t. That means more money for team to reinvest.


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« Reply #1171 on: December 19, 2018, 12:50:10 am »
Even assuming that were true, that would still mean you were OK with making assloads of money for a despicable company that's actively trying to destroy American journalism in the name of their owner's political agenda.
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« Reply #1172 on: December 19, 2018, 12:51:40 am »
Tell you what. I'll answer this question after you answer the one I asked you.

You mean the straw man one that was based on a false premise in the first place?

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« Reply #1173 on: December 19, 2018, 05:59:11 am »
Even assuming that were true, that would still mean you were OK with making assloads of money for a despicable company that's actively trying to destroy American journalism in the name of their owner's political agenda.
who George Soros has already done that
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1174 on: December 19, 2018, 06:43:45 am »
I am no fan of most of the Ricketts family, as far as their politics goes (which really should not be part of this topic). But this notion that their politics is simplistic is neither accurate nor relevant to baseball decisions.  I know a little about the Ricketts family as well as their involvement with the Cubs and the neighborhood surrounding Wrigley Field. I live 1.5 miles from the ballpark, have a long history as a Cub fan, of involvement in Chicago politics and have followed all of the machinations (political and otherwise) around the family and the ballpark pretty closely.

First, the family is not a monolithic family politically. Joe (father, and least involved with the Cubs) is a funder of right wing politicians and causes (I don't expect anyone to disagree with this). Pete Ricketts, who has had no involvement with the Cubs, is a conservative/right wing Republican Governor of Nebraska. Todd is a very conservative or even right wing guy who almost went to work for the Trump administration. Todd has little (if any) direct involvement with the Cubs. Tom, who is the guy who actually operates as the active owner of the Cubs, whatever his politics, has avoided being directly involved in politics at least since his direct involvement with the Cubs. Laura, is the second most involved member of the Ricketts family with the Cubs. She is a Democrat, an Obama bundler, a lesbian and major supporter of liberal causes. The guy hired by Tom Ricketts to run the Cubs, Theo Epstein, is a liberal Democrat.

The local alderman, who resisted many of the changes at Wrigley Field, is being challenged by a liberal Democrat (who worked in the Obama administration and in Democratic Governor Patrick Quinn's administration), as well as a couple of other challengers (one a Republican). The incumbent has weirdly accused his primary challenger as being a tool of the right wing Ricketts.  It does appear that Laura Ricketts may support him, though is not contributing to his campaign. So people, for whatever purposes, have confused the Rickett's conflicting politics to support their own points of view.

Being offended by the politics of the right wing portion of the Ricketts family led one member of the board to conclude that the primary interest of the family in taking over ownership of the Cubs was a business decision, and that their greed would prevent them from investing heavily in the team. Well, that clearly turned out not to be the case. So, I'd suggest we take care about repeating this mistake.
Well said Ron. Despite the media, cable news channels and politicians on both sides, others who do not share our views are not enemies. It is possible to have a contrary view politically and not be enemies. We used to believe that in this country. Unfortunately, that is becoming the exception to the rule. So thanks Ron, and now, back to baseball.

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« Reply #1175 on: December 19, 2018, 09:44:53 am »
You mean the straw man one that was based on a false premise in the first place?

Does this mean you deny that you claimed that Ricketts would not invest heavily in the Cubs after he took it over?

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1176 on: December 19, 2018, 10:03:53 am »
Even assuming that were true, that would still mean you were OK with making assloads of money for a despicable company that's actively trying to destroy American journalism in the name of their owner's political agenda.

I've lived in 3 cities that have Sinclair stations.  I don't watch them for news and whatever they are doing hasn't effected the local news station that I watch. 

I really wouldn't care if the Cubs partnered with George Soros and had Keith Olbermann and Alec Baldwin doing the games as long as it brought in a crap ton of money for the Cubs. 

In actual baseball news it sounds like Tulo looked good in his workout, but that he is looking for a starting job vs utility role.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1177 on: December 19, 2018, 12:32:24 pm »
Article about Melisa Reidy, Addison Russell's ex-wife:

http://www.expandedroster.com/2018/12/19/melisa-reidy-is-speaking-out-its-time-for-everyone-to-listen/

I really don't see how the Cubs can bring him back. What happens if they release him now before his arbitration hearing?

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« Reply #1178 on: December 19, 2018, 12:41:38 pm »
Link doesn't work.
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« Reply #1179 on: December 19, 2018, 12:51:24 pm »
It was working a few minutes ago. That site is pretty small and has been overwhelmed with traffic at different times this morning, so it's probably down right now.

They also have a PDF version on a different site:

https://www.docdroid.net/b4Kkd6i/melisa-reidy-is-speaking-out-its-time-for-everyone-to-listen-kw.pdf

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1180 on: December 19, 2018, 12:53:26 pm »
The internet traffic took down the site.  Is there any indication in the article that their is something the Cubs wouldn't have been aware of?

I think that after the Cubs agree to a contract with him they owe him 30 days termination pay if they release him before a certain point in Spring Training.

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1181 on: December 19, 2018, 12:58:58 pm »
Article about Melisa Reidy, Addison Russell's ex-wife:

http://www.expandedroster.com/2018/12/19/melisa-reidy-is-speaking-out-its-time-for-everyone-to-listen/

I really don't see how the Cubs can bring him back.
Just because he has now had kids with three different women and paid child support to one of them in mostly quarters and ones?
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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1182 on: December 19, 2018, 12:59:20 pm »
Is there any indication in the article that their is something the Cubs wouldn't have been aware of?

No...but every bit of new information makes the PR hit they're taking that much worse. At some point, the organization would probably prefer to cut bait rather than continue dealing with the bad PR.

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« Reply #1183 on: December 19, 2018, 01:00:37 pm »
Russell doesn't have a dollar-figure for his contract yet, right?  Arb deals aren't wrapped up yet, are they? 

Contracts for arb-guys are non-guaranteed, correct, unless there is special provision?  So the Cubs still presumably have the contractual right to cut Russell prior to mid-March, and be obligated to only 30-days-worth of his contract.  So, in a sense they kind of have an ~$0.5K opt-out available, right?   

http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/non-guaranteed-contract
"Players on arbitration contracts who are cut on or before the 16th day of Spring Training are owed 30 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary). A player cut between the 16th day and the end of Spring Training is owed 45 days' termination pay (based on the prorated version of his agreed-upon arbitration salary). The arbitration salary becomes guaranteed if the player is on the 25-man roster when the season begins."

When Theo announced they were bringing him back, there were contingencies in his wording.  They were going to help him become a better man, counseling, personal development, etc..  It may be that paying child support is unconnected to anger-management counseling.  But I would assume that child support would be an externally measurable increment of developing responsibility. 

I'd have to think that if Russell refuses to do even so trivial and easy a thing, that it's going to be kind of tough for Theo to conclude that Russell has a heart in the right place, and that he's making appropriate progress in his personal development.   

Russell must have a terrible agent if the agent can't even get direct-deposit set up for Russell's child-support payment.  Almost too bizarre to be true. 

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Re: Cubs in '19
« Reply #1184 on: December 19, 2018, 01:24:07 pm »
So if the Cubs decided to cut him this afternoon and no one else signed him before his arbitration date, would they still have to go through arbitration with him to figure out how much severance pay he gets?