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CurtOne

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2019, 06:28:55 pm »
Maybe Zobrist will retire, be named manager, leave the team in June, come back in September and let the guys rule themselves all summer.

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« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2019, 08:11:48 pm »
Ron, I heard Theo's comments re Ross more favorably.  Referenced Ross's "worldview"; said his past connection would not be a detriment; and said he'd be evaluated on his merits. 

Theo could have easily iced Ross speculation, by emphasizing need for outside voice, or more strongly talking up value of experience.  (Seemed token valuation to me.)  He didn't. 

It could be that Theo wanted to simply shoot down any notion that, should he decide to choose Ross, that the decision would be based on his relationship with the players and his identity being tied to the 2016 team. 

I seriously doubt that Theo knows who is going to be the next manager, and that he's open to a variety of options at this point.  This is not a 2015 Joe Maddon situation.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2019, 10:19:07 pm »
I think Ross will be an excellent manager...in 2025.

Theo has NOT always been right.  Remember the dick he hired first?  In the interview he claimed he was into sabermetrics and joked about it later?  Maddon was his third pick.
  I was angry that I couldn't remember the dick's name.  Dale Sveum.  Did anyone else know that the Cubs gave him a World Series ring?  I wonder if they gave Renteria one too.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2019, 10:22:00 pm »
  I was angry that I couldn't remember the dick's name.  Dale Sveum.  Did anyone else know that the Cubs gave him a World Series ring?  I wonder if they gave Renteria one too.

Yep. 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2017/08/17/no-hard-feelings-cubs-give-ex-manager-rick-renteria-world-series-ring/576104001/
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2019, 10:25:17 pm »
I’d imagine they’d have a pretty good idea if Ross has the qualities that they are looking for in a manager.  That doesn’t mean that somebody from outside they org couldn’t come in and blow them away.

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« Reply #95 on: October 01, 2019, 10:35:02 pm »
Exactly.  He's going to go through due process for sure. 

I guess I had assumed Ross was just a media name, and that the Cubs wouldn't actually take him seriously.  So after Theo's comments, I felt surprised that he brought up Ross like three different times, and that none of his comments to me seemed to downplay Ross's chances to be taken seriously, or perhaps to even end up getting hired.  Certainly it's nothing like Maddon's targeted hiring.  And certainly none of the comments suggested that Ross was pretty much pre-determined. 

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2019, 10:41:42 pm »
Ross would make a terrific bench coach, smoothing things between a new manager and the players.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2019, 11:10:04 pm »
Ross would make a terrific bench coach, smoothing things between a new manager and the players.

He'd never take that job.  If he doesn't get the manager gig he'll keep working part-time and hang out with his kids.

Craig, for my part I never doubted the Cubs would take Ross seriously as a potential manager.  They've always seemed enamored with him.

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« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2019, 11:49:44 pm »
Yep. 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2017/08/17/no-hard-feelings-cubs-give-ex-manager-rick-renteria-world-series-ring/576104001/

I didn't know Renteria got one.  Good for the Cubs on that.  Hiring Maddon to replace him was obviously the right move, but he still got hosed in that deal. 

Sveum...well might have been a little too generous!

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2019, 08:21:23 am »
Whether the Cubs are interested in him is another matter, but Girardi just basically said on the radio he wants the job.

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« Reply #100 on: October 02, 2019, 08:39:23 am »
I want the job too.  Don't know if I will land it but I sent an email.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #101 on: October 02, 2019, 08:44:05 am »
I don’t think Girardi sits out 2019 waiting on the Cubs job unless his back-channel communications were that he had a shot.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #102 on: October 02, 2019, 08:47:52 am »
Maybe I’m going too much on his tv persona, but I haven’t been very impressed with Rossy during his time on ESPN. It’s clear how buddy-buddy he is with the Cubs players still, and I feel like it was pretty rare he provided much real insight or signs of thoughtfulness or strategy.  Maybe down the road, but I don’t feel like he’s the best choice for 2020. .


Thanks, dihard.  That's helpful to hear. 

Cubs admin have a reputation for being really smart/intellectual.  I'd like to get somebody who's really intelligent and smart.  Maddon is, no question there.  But I'm not sure all of their managerial hires, or batting-coach hires, have necessarily mirrored that.  Think they have maybe tended to go more for style.  Elan, the word Theo used several times.  Soft skills. 

I hope they get somebody who's got good soft skills, but who's also an intelligent and thoughtful guy too. 

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #103 on: October 02, 2019, 08:50:16 am »


Thanks, dihard.  That's helpful to hear. 

Cubs admin have a reputation for being really smart/intellectual.  I'd like to get somebody who's really intelligent and smart.  Maddon is, no question there.  But I'm not sure all of their managerial hires, or batting-coach hires, have necessarily mirrored that.  Think they have maybe tended to go more for style.  Elan, the word Theo used several times.  Soft skills. 

I hope they get somebody who's got good soft skills, but who's also an intelligent and thoughtful guy too. 
That rules out WJ

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #104 on: October 02, 2019, 08:52:37 am »
Does MLB still require that at least one minority candidate be interviewed?  There was talk a few years ago about that rule not being effective.  Teams were accused of only making "token" interviews.