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CurtOne

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« Reply #75 on: October 01, 2019, 02:43:12 pm »
That's a tough one.  To a degree it's like a teacher trying to achieve discipline in a classroom allowed to get out of control.  Easier to get a different teacher.  Advancing a former student, even if he was a class leader, is not a real answer.
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« Reply #76 on: October 01, 2019, 03:01:42 pm »
Managing isn't just dealing with the clubhouse though.  The media has to managed as well.  Maddon was amazing at this and that's why they think somebody like Ross is needed. 

Maybe Ross was the teacher that kept the kids in line during 2015/16 and without him the classroom was lost.  I really have no idea what is needed as the next manager, Theo seems to have a decent track record at picking guys and picking guys to interview so I'm just gonna go with the flow.
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« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2019, 03:14:01 pm »
Someone mentioned the trade of LaStella above.

Is the lack of contact something that Epstein just noticed this year?  It certainly wasn't new to most on this board.  If contact was such a glaring flaw in the team, why trade one of the only guys that actually made consistent contact.  Certainly, no one expected LaStella to turn into a power hitter, but they must have known that trading him would reduce the overall contact level of the team, not increase it.
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« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2019, 03:17:42 pm »
I think Ross will be an excellent manager...in 2025.

Theo has NOT always been right.  Remember the dick he hired first?  In the interview he claimed he was into sabermetrics and joked about it later?  Maddon was his third pick.
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« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2019, 03:28:22 pm »
Quote from: Ron on October 01, 2019, 11:47:58 am
"What Theo Epstein is searching for in the next Cubs manager (Hint: It’s David Ross)"

I'm hoping that Patrick Mooney did not come up with that headline for his article on Theo's comments on the managerial search during his press conference.  While the article spends a lot of time discussing Ross, it does not support the headline.

https://theathletic.com/1256607/2019/10/01/what-theo-epstein-is-searching-for-in-the-next-cubs-manager-hint-its-david-ross/

Heh heh.  My brother used to write for the Milwaukee Journal, and their Washington correspondent.  A routine frustration was bad headlines assigned to good articles.  For paper stuff, the layout people decide how many columns wide an article is, and thus how much headline fits. 

So pretty sure that Mooney has NOTHING to do with that. 
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« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2019, 03:57:17 pm »
I'm not so sure.  On the podcast, Mooney seemed pretty convinced it's going to be Ross.
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« Reply #81 on: October 01, 2019, 04:00:08 pm »
Quote from: CurtOne on October 01, 2019, 03:17:42 pm
I think Ross will be an excellent manager...in 2025.

Maybe I’m going too much on his tv persona, but I haven’t been very impressed with Rossy during his time on ESPN. It’s clear how buddy-buddy he is with the Cubs players still, and I feel like it was pretty rare he provided much real insight or signs of thoughtfulness or strategy.  Maybe down the road, but I don’t feel like he’s the best choice for 2020.


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« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2019, 04:31:09 pm »
One of the managerial candidates reported to be of interest to Cubs is Raul Ibanez.

Ironically, Ibanez was one of the three finalists to replace Maddon with the Rays after 2014 but he took his name out of consideration during the process and the job went to Kevin Cash.

Below is a broadcast booth interview with Ibanez from 2015 talking about that and other things. Seems like an impressive guy.

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« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2019, 04:53:29 pm »
I'm told the Chicago Cubs offered a position to
@DrivelineBB
's Kyle Boddy but he'll be heading to the Reds per
@JeffPassan

From Travis Sawchek.  Balls.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2019, 04:55:18 pm »
Patrick Mooney
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The Cubs confirm Mark Loretta and Will Venable will join David Ross as internal candidates to replace Joe Maddon.
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craig

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« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2019, 05:03:17 pm »
Quote from: CUBluejays on October 01, 2019, 04:53:29 pm
I'm told the Chicago Cubs offered a position to
@DrivelineBB
's Kyle Boddy but he'll be heading to the Reds per
@JeffPassan

From Travis Sawchek.  Balls.

Very interesting that Theo couldn't outsell the Cubs versus the Reds.  Given the lack of young arms in the Cubs system, and the big volume of great ones with the Reds, it certainly makes sense from Boddy's perspective.  Discouraging, though. 
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« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2019, 05:46:04 pm »
Ron, I heard Theo's comments re Ross more favorably.  Referenced Ross's "worldview"; said his past connection would not be a detriment; and said he'd be evaluated on his merits. 

Theo could have easily iced Ross speculation, by emphasizing need for outside voice, or more strongly talking up value of experience.  (Seemed token valuation to me.)  He didn't. 
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« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2019, 05:48:27 pm »
Boddy wants to remain at Driveline. That might have been a sticking point for the Cubs. So say Boddy helps develop a new technique of training or a new use of tech or new tech. You have to keep him from using it at Driveline, which might be a friction point.
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« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2019, 06:07:26 pm »
I'd be pretty surprised if Rossy is the choice. 
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CurtOne

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« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2019, 06:26:51 pm »
If he was loose, I'd bet on Terry Francona
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