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Ron

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #255 on: October 10, 2019, 03:23:02 pm »
I expect Theo to be very aggressive in pursuing trades and my guess is that Bryant will be at the center of his discussions. I would also expect there to be plenty of strong interest in Bryant, enough that there will be a sufficiently attractive offer for a deal to be made.

But my guess is that Contreras is not likely to be traded, unless the Cubs do not find a sufficiently attractive deal for Bryant. In that event, I could see the Cubs trading Contreras in order to bring in enough to remake the lineup to something closer to the profile the Cubs seek.
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CUBluejays

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« Reply #256 on: October 10, 2019, 03:30:48 pm »
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Only 1 that has a chance of getting traded is Contreras.  Happ/Almora/Russell are the 3 guys most likely not to be with the team next year (Trade/Iowa/Just be gone).
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Ron

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #257 on: October 10, 2019, 03:32:39 pm »
Quote from: chgojhawk on October 10, 2019, 01:46:45 pm
I will say “Well Over”. I will say a MINIMUM of 2 will be gone.

Really?  Can we agree that Rizzo will not be traded? If so, then you are suggesting that among Bryant, Baez and Contreras, only one (and maybe none) will remain a Cub? I do not expect both Bryant and Contreras to be traded, though I suppose it's not inconceivable. But in any event I would be shocked if the Cubs trade Baez.
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« Reply #258 on: October 10, 2019, 04:08:59 pm »
Going to be surprised if any of the "core" guys are traded for purposes of a reset.

Bryant is a bit different in the sense that he is a guy that the brass probably expects to lose in free agency.  Therefore, Theo may want to get a return for him as a "due diligence" type of move.  Otherwise, don't think they would move anybody other than the guys CBJ mentioned above.

AZ Phil has an interesting theory at Cub Reporter.  He speculates that Bryant gets traded in a deal that includes a young rotation pitcher coming back (speculates Padres' Lamet) and Cubs also don't exercise the Quintana club option (with that pitcher replacing Quintana) and the Bryant/Quintana payroll savings used to bring in another big bat (maybe Castellanos).
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craig

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« Reply #259 on: October 10, 2019, 04:49:24 pm »
Agree with Ron that Rizzo is going nowhere.  Situational hitting, adaptation, leadership, heart, Rizzo's the face of everything Theo wants. 

Theo talked a lot about "energy"; Baez and Contreras would seem the most high-energy guys on the team. 

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CurtOne

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #260 on: October 10, 2019, 04:50:47 pm »
It would be nice to clarify the Japanese cf situation asap.   I would target Kiermeier and Yarborogh from the Ray's. 
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« Reply #261 on: October 10, 2019, 04:57:17 pm »
Ive said it before but Bryant and Schwarber are who I'd expect to be moved and maybe Contreras if someone wants to pay a kings ransom.

No way on Javy and Rizzo.

It also wouldnt be awful if Darvish opts out.
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craig

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« Reply #262 on: October 10, 2019, 05:03:17 pm »
Quote from: Reb on October 10, 2019, 04:08:59 pm
Bryant is a bit different in the sense that he is a guy that the brass probably expects to lose in free agency.  .....
AZ Phil has an interesting theory at Cub Reporter.  He speculates that Bryant gets traded in a deal that includes a young rotation pitcher coming back (speculates Padres' Lamet) and Cubs also don't exercise the Quintana club option (with that pitcher replacing Quintana) and the Bryant/Quintana payroll savings used to bring in another big bat (maybe Castellanos).

The concept of declining Q and using his money for other purpose has been made before!  :)  The idea of trading Bryant for younger club-control talent, while re-allocating his budget slot, makes lots of sense.  Particularly if you got back a talented controlled pitcher in exchange.  A challenge, of course, is creating a 3B-hole on offense.  That's where the idea of trading Bryant but pursuing Rendon make conceptual sense. 
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Playtwo

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« Reply #263 on: October 10, 2019, 05:04:57 pm »
I agree with CBJ.  Possibly Contreras, but not the others (including Bryant).
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Deeg

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« Reply #264 on: October 10, 2019, 05:09:34 pm »
Quote from: CurtOne on October 10, 2019, 04:50:47 pm
It would be nice to clarify the Japanese cf situation asap.   I would target Kiermeier and Yarborogh from the Ray's. 

What needs to be clarified?  He's a FA and can sign where he wants and when he wants.

I agree that of the "core" as defined in the hypothetical, Contreras is the most logical (and likely) guy to be moved, with Bryant a longshot and the other two "no way in Hell".
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Deeg

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« Reply #265 on: October 10, 2019, 05:12:15 pm »
Devil's advocate question: If Ross is such hot shlt, why are there 8 vacancies and no one else seems interested in even interviewing him?  Do they simply recognize that the Cubs are the only job he wants, or do they not think he's worth their time?
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CurtOne

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« Reply #266 on: October 10, 2019, 05:32:25 pm »
Clarified?  Simple.  Get him signed or as soon as he signs elsewhere  determines if Kermeier has any interest for us.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #267 on: October 10, 2019, 05:35:46 pm »
If Msddon is such hot sht  why didn't we keep him?
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« Reply #268 on: October 10, 2019, 06:04:10 pm »
Stupidity.
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chgojhawk

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« Reply #269 on: October 10, 2019, 09:02:53 pm »
Bryant is the most likely to be gone. While he may not be moved, you folks are wrong about Rizzo. He very well may be moved.

The lack of leadership on the team is a big issue. While the public perception of Rizzo is that of a leader, the truth of the matter is that there is no leader on the team.
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