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craig

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #690 on: November 09, 2019, 03:35:33 pm »
There has been talk about Castellanos, because he can hit, make contact, and is less vulnerable to the upper-half pitches than the other Cubs.

I wonder whether signing BOTH Shogo AND Castellanos, AND keeping Schwarber too, would actually make sense?  Probably not monetarily.  But while that might seem like overkill (Shogo plus 3 corner outfielders....),having some surplus has a certain appeal to me.  Guys get hurt.  If Shogo isn't that good, Hayward could fill some center.   Castellanos could sit against some RHP.  Schwarber could sit against some tough LHP.  Heyward could sit some during his slumps and be late-inning defensive replacement.  Perhaps with the four of them, you'd actually end up with quite a very good offensive outfield, overall?  And on games or innings when both Shoto and Hayward played, perhaps the defense would be pretty decent, too? 

The other advantage of spending on OF and going surplus there, is that you'd not need to be sending infielders out there.  How many games this year (and prior) have we had Bryant playing OF, with Bote at 3rd?  Or Zobrist in OF?  Or Contreras in OF? 

Ron has expressed some concern with Bryant's 3B defense:  what if he just played 3B all the time, and practiced 3B, and focused on 3B?  He's been great in that he could go to left, center, right, or 1B, and play any of them reasonably well.  But might it not be best for both him and the team to just stay put at 3B?

Not sure if you want to ever see Happ play another inning at 2B, or Bote either.  But perhaps if you do keep one of those two guys, and 2B is the position with some available starts in combo with Hoerner, maybe doing less multi-position stuff and more practice and focus on a primary position might help those guys, too? 

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #691 on: November 09, 2019, 07:03:38 pm »
I think one of the problems, of course, is that Theo is so prioritized on clubhouse leadership.  If you bring in Shogo, he might be the perfect player and a terrific value for price...  but probably as a new guy with English as 2nd language, I'd not imagine he's going to immediately take over as a a self-confident accountability guy.  Same from the pitching side; maybe Ryu is a good guy to pursue without being prohibitively expensive.  But is a craft Japanese guy going to take over the clubhouse leadership and accountability patrol?

I'm kinda guessing that if "edgy" leaderhip and accountability-patrol is what he's looking for, maybe the Japanese options might be really good baseball-player fits, but that's 2nd to clubhouse chemistry issues for Theo? 

Actually Akiyama is known as a great clubhouse guy.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #692 on: November 09, 2019, 11:03:27 pm »
I wouldn't count on Hoerner playing much for the Cubs.  He was rushed up this year, and I suspect he will start the season down in Iowa, where he can actually perfect his skills without hurting the MLB team.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #693 on: November 10, 2019, 07:09:13 am »
SABR 2019 defensive rankings for CF, NL:


Player   Team   SDI
Victor Robles   WSN   11.1
Lorenzo Cain   MIL   10.2
Harrison Bader   STL   9.3
Manuel Margot   SDP   4.1
Ronald Acuna Jr.   ATL   3.4
Alex Verdugo   LAD   2.3
Jarrod Dyson   ARI   1.6
Scott Kingery   PHI   0.0
Ketel Marte   ARI   -1.1
Nick Senzel   CIN   -2.6
Starling Marte   PIT   -3.4
Kevin Pillar   SFG   -4.9
Albert Almora   CHC   -5.8
Ian Desmond   COL   -14.7

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CUBluejays

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #695 on: November 10, 2019, 08:42:42 am »
Sharma has a piece up that pegs Willson as the guy the Cubs are most likely to trade.

Topkin has a piece that the Rays are looking for more offense and mentions catcher as an area of upgrade. They’d seem to match up well with the Cubs of you day pitching.

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2019/11/09/rays-head-to-gm-meetings-seeking-offense/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #696 on: November 10, 2019, 08:44:41 am »
Schwarber and Hoerner for Merrifield?  Just say no.

https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/11/09/cubs-trade-rumors-whit-merrifield-will-be-priority-match-exists-involving-infielder-and-outfielder/

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Or maybe the Royals have had their eye on Daniel Descalso since hiring Mike Matheny as manager, thereby making ol’ Danny D the big trade chip. Or not.


If Matheny is interested in Descalso or not, accept whatever the Royals are offering.


Ron

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #697 on: November 10, 2019, 10:56:18 am »
Sharma makes a strong case for Contreras being the most likely core player to be traded.

https://theathletic.com/1363480/2019/11/10/why-trading-willson-contreras-could-help-the-cubs-extend-their-contention-window/

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #698 on: November 10, 2019, 11:05:56 am »
Schwarber and Hoerner for Merrifield?  Just say no.

https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/11/09/cubs-trade-rumors-whit-merrifield-will-be-priority-match-exists-involving-infielder-and-outfielder/
If this happened, I would be on the “Fire Hoystein” bandwagon, effective immediately.
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Reb

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #699 on: November 10, 2019, 11:58:58 am »
Sharma makes a strong case for Contreras being the most likely core player to be traded.


If Caratini is not a dramatic dropoff from Contreras, just trade Caratini instead. Perhaps other clubs have a similar opinion as Sharma about Caratini.

For a big chunk of 2019, Contreras and Baez were the Cubs players putting up dramatically better numbers than the NL average at his position. So, don’t see benefit of removing one of these guys.

Caratini would be a nice trade piece. Do that instead.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #700 on: November 10, 2019, 12:09:18 pm »
I can't imagine that the Royals would have any interest in getting Schwarber in a Merrifield trade. He's only two years from free agency, and they're definitely not contending in that window. Schwarber only fits with a team that is trying to win now.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #701 on: November 10, 2019, 12:22:56 pm »
I can't imagine that the Royals would have any interest in getting Schwarber in a Merrifield trade. He's only two years from free agency, and they're definitely not contending in that window. Schwarber only fits with a team that is trying to win now.

Yeah, I thought Happ / Bote or Hoerner better fit their profile.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #702 on: November 10, 2019, 02:41:10 pm »
Scott Harris was named the Giants GM.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #703 on: November 10, 2019, 05:45:33 pm »
Sharma makes a strong case for Contreras being the most likely core player to be traded.

https://theathletic.com/1363480/2019/11/10/why-trading-willson-contreras-could-help-the-cubs-extend-their-contention-window/

He's right.  If the Cubs are going to trade from the core, Bryant, Contreras and Schwarber (if you consider him part of it) are the only real possibilities.  Schwarber won't bring much back, and Bryant is simply harder to match up in a trade.  By default Contreras is really the spotlight guy.  Plus the fact that you have what looks like a pretty solid alternative in Caratini, a loaded catcher FA market and your best position player in the minors at the position, and the math adds up.  Will anyone offer enough to make it worthwhile?  That's the key question.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #704 on: November 10, 2019, 09:37:59 pm »
If the catcher free market is loaded, why would a team trade to get Contreras instead of signing a free agent?