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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #810 on: November 15, 2019, 03:47:30 pm »
...They guy isn't a star but he can be Jackie Bradley Jr, who is a valuable enough to play CF.


I agree that Almora has a chance to be Jackie Bradley. But, Bradley started to show some pop after about 500 PAs in the majors and Almora has almost 1,300 PAs without such evidence. So, still think it takes a lot of faith to hope for that. There is nothing going on statistically to support that. We’ve seen little blips of hope and then he falls back. Matter of faith.

Think that Almora has the residual power to hit like Bradley. That is also true for an awful lot of guys who never end up showing it. But, Almora will play 2020 at age 26 and hope springs eternal.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #811 on: November 15, 2019, 04:35:48 pm »
Christian Yelich just humbled Yu Darvish on Twitter.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #812 on: November 15, 2019, 04:57:54 pm »
Yelich acting like a baby.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #813 on: November 15, 2019, 05:12:31 pm »
Christian Yelich just humbled Yu Darvish on Twitter.

I guess you could call it that. I'd call it being overly defensive about an innocuous comment where Darvish specifically said he wasn't accusing Yelich of stealing signs.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #814 on: November 15, 2019, 05:16:35 pm »
Almora was among the best the league leaders in outs above average prior to Houston.  He finished the year with a lower number.  In 2018 he had an expected of 89 and he caught 93.  In 2019 it was 85% and 86%.  His speed is 82nd percentile for MLB players and his outfield jump in 88th percentile (it was 92nd percentile earlier).  He still has speed and greats great jumps.  His career wRC+ is 87.  Everything tanked for him after Houston.  They guy isn't a star but he can be Jackie Bradley Jr, who is a valuable enough to play CF.

Blue, how do the speed and jump numbers compute/compare, to other CFers?  I'm not trying to be negative here, just sincerely curious.  CF is the most speed-oriented position in baseball, so we expect it to self-select for >90th percentile speedsters.  Is median for a CF around 82nd percentile, or 90th percentile, or 94th percentile, or 74th percentile?  I have no idea.  I'm guessing 82nd percentile is a little below average for a CF, but not grossly so? 
*Also, you mention 82nd percentile for MLB players.  Are pitchers MLB players, I assume not?  Or do MLB players include pitchers?  If the latter, then presumably ≤50th percentile is populated by pitchers. 
*Even with position players only, that's still including the Rizzos and Caratinis and Botes and Zobrists and Eloy and Soler guys, many of whom are not very fast. 
*So I'm curious where 82nd percentile would fall, relative to center fielders. 

Outfield jump is obviously relative to outfielders.  So that's a clear frame of reference.  Again, I assume CF selects for the better ones, so probably ≥60th-percentile jump guys are predominantly CFers.  But 88th percentile overall must certainly be in the upper half, perhaps even among the upper quartile, even amongst CFers. 

I guess it just seems unlikely to me that a foul ball incident would have a cause-and-effect impact on performance.  If so, do you think he'll still be compromised by that for the duration of his career?  Or for the upcoming season?  Or might that have a 5-month impact, but not endure beyond the winter? 

I'm not doubting the numbers you included.  And I'm not a psychiatrist.  It just seems unusual that a pro athlete, who is so used to focusing on things he can control, would have a season-long collapse over an incident for which he has no fault, and for whose followup he has no opportunity or responsibility.  To have that on your mind during batting practice, or during your AB, or when playing the field, or when chasing a fly ball, that just seems very unusual.  It may be that the timing was coincidence, that his decline is unrelated to the incident, and that his decline will not be remediated by an extra offseason of separation from the incident.   

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #815 on: November 15, 2019, 05:35:24 pm »
What are the reports on his defense?

As noted kind of a jumble, but in general he's been regarded as plus-plus defensively in CF.  This issue is he's 32, but I think the consensus is he'd still be at least average for the next couple of seasons.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #816 on: November 15, 2019, 05:54:05 pm »
Christian Yelich just humbled Yu Darvish on Twitter.
share please


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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #818 on: November 15, 2019, 06:29:13 pm »
Thanks

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #819 on: November 15, 2019, 06:29:47 pm »
Here's more context...Bleacher Nation tells most of the lead up to Yelich's tweet:

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2019/11/15/must-read-of-the-day-yu-darvish-on-sign-stealing-the-world-series-and-a-prevalent-problem/

Quick summary: There was an article today about Darvish's bad start in the 2017 World Series and how it looks in hindsight with the Astros stealing signs controversy. Later in the article, he says he thinks sign stealing is widespread in baseball and shares a story where he noticed batters of an unnamed team glancing out to left center field when he was getting ready to throw a pitch, and so he stepped off the mound. Bleacher Nation did some detective work and tweeted out a video that appears to show Yelich glancing out to LCF, and then Darvish steps off. The video is at the end of the Bleacher Nation article.

Darvish saw this and seemed to confirm this was what he was talking about:

ダルビッシュ有(Yu Darvish) @faridyu
I'm not sure what is he trying to do. But to be clear his eyes move first. That's why I step off.


Then three minutes later, he tweeted this:
ダルビッシュ有(Yu Darvish) @faridyu
But that's not mean Brewers stealing signs.


Later in the afternoon, Yelich got defensive.

Christian Yelich @ChristianYelich
Be better than this. Nobody needs help facing you


Josh Donaldson and Darvish then had an entertaining back and forth:

Josh Donaldson @BringerOfRain20
Replying to @ChristianYelich and @Jared_Carrabis
💀 I could use some help off him whatcha got?

ダルビッシュ有(Yu Darvish) @faridyu
I don't think you need help either.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #820 on: November 15, 2019, 06:45:18 pm »
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #821 on: November 15, 2019, 06:52:08 pm »
There has been a lot of chatter that the rangers and Brewers are also stealing signs.. that's kinda where this started for bleacher nation

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #822 on: November 15, 2019, 07:07:14 pm »
Manfred needs to completely wipe this out.  The nuclear option should be on the table.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #823 on: November 15, 2019, 07:42:39 pm »
Yelich certainly comes off as suspiciously defensive there.  A very Trumpian response.

Yu is a tremendous follow on twitter.  Guy always says what he thinks and doesn't give a ****.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #824 on: November 15, 2019, 07:51:11 pm »
I have had a lot of respect for how the Brewers have been able to succeed with lesser players and limited resources.  Now there is doubt about the legitimacy of their accomplishments.