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ticohans

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1035 on: December 05, 2019, 04:02:05 pm »
The final thing I wonder about is if Theo can persuade Ricketts to free up some cash and/or get creative with contracts for one of Cole or Strasburg. The Cubs have ~$45M in SP payroll coming off the books after 2020, and that year's SP FA crop doesn't look nearly as strong at the top (Bauer, Paxton). Would be great to pull some of that 2021 cash into 2020, if possible. Something we've done in the past.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1036 on: December 05, 2019, 04:06:39 pm »
I'd think Kyle Tucker of Forest Whitley would be a must for the Cubs in a Contreras trade.  But the way the last couple of offseasons have gone for Theo, you worry he'll accidentally trade for Forest Tucker.

I don't think there's any way that Houston trades Tucker or Whitley to the Cubs for Contreras, unless they're convinced the framing stuff is a nothingburger.

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« Reply #1037 on: December 05, 2019, 04:07:37 pm »
It is a nothingburger though.


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« Reply #1039 on: December 05, 2019, 04:09:14 pm »
I can't see the Cubs trading Rizzo. Of the core players he embodies the plate approach the Cubs want from the lineup.   

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1040 on: December 05, 2019, 04:12:25 pm »
I can't see the Cubs trading Rizzo. Of the core players he embodies the plate approach the Cubs want from the lineup.   

Agreed. Flip side, for all of the vague criticisms of "team leadership" from Theo, have to wonder if Rizzo is someone they've been expecting to fill a bigger void.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1041 on: December 05, 2019, 04:26:39 pm »
I'm not sure the Royals would really want Rizzo though, but I guess they could sell their fans that they aren't rebuilding.

For the Cubs I'm not sure it solves problems.  The Cubs would be essentially the same with contact with the swap and lose a sigificant source of left handed power.  The other kicker is Merrifield is actually older than Rizzo.  Rizzo even with his back issues seems like the type of guy that will age better as well.  Castellanos has usually been below league average in contact.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1042 on: December 05, 2019, 04:27:33 pm »
I'd think Kyle Tucker of Forest Whitley would be a must for the Cubs in a Contreras trade.  But the way the last couple of offseasons have gone for Theo, you worry he'll accidentally trade for Forest Tucker.

Spectacular post, Deeg!  Simply brilliant!

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1043 on: December 05, 2019, 04:30:01 pm »
I'd think Kyle Tucker of Forest Whitley would be a must for the Cubs in a Contreras trade.  But the way the last couple of offseasons have gone for Theo, you worry he'll accidentally trade for Forest Tucker.

Larry Storch as a PTBNL?
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1044 on: December 05, 2019, 04:50:25 pm »
Larry Storch as a PTBNL?

Mr. Whoopee is still around, you know. But word is he’s lost a step at 96 and would need to play a corner OF spot now.

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1045 on: December 05, 2019, 06:03:16 pm »
I don't think there's any way that Houston trades Tucker or Whitley to the Cubs for Contreras, unless they're convinced the framing stuff is a nothingburger.

I wonder if Houston might think that they'd be able to develop Contreras as a framer in a way that the Cubs just didn't have the teaching/diagnostics/development resources to make happen? 

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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1046 on: December 05, 2019, 06:49:22 pm »
He would also hit better knowing what pitch was coming.
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« Reply #1047 on: December 05, 2019, 07:01:04 pm »
Unless we get something very good in return of course.

Any chance we could get their sign stealing equipment and those operating it?
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1048 on: December 05, 2019, 08:32:09 pm »
That's too much.

I don't know.  We always talk about these moves we want to make in the outfield, and it usually ends with "We can't have _______ and Schwarber in the outfield together."  A guy like Tucker would end a lot of those roadblocks.  It'd also help make a Castellanos re-signing make much more sense.

Not that we're going to trade for Tucker anyway, but if the Astros are interested in Contreras but wouldn't part with Tucker for him, maybe adding Schwarber sweetens the pot enough to do it and helps end a lot of our outfield logjam issues.


Also if it seems to much for us to pay for Tucker, it might mean that could be an appropriate enough trade after all for us.  To get something, you have to give something.
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Re: Cubs in '20
« Reply #1049 on: December 05, 2019, 08:33:09 pm »
Any chance we could get their sign stealing equipment and those operating it?

Ha!  Yeah that'd probably make it a fair up swap!