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mO

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Cubs in '21
« on: October 02, 2020, 04:41:52 pm »
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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 06:50:16 pm »
Blow it up.

Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 07:29:27 pm »
What's coming from the farm system besides Brailyn Marquez?  Not very much.

Deeg

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 07:34:06 pm »
Amaya?  Davis?  Christian Hernandez eventually.  Overall not a lot.

Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 08:06:54 pm »
Amaya?  Davis?  Christian Hernandez eventually.  Overall not a lot.
The intrasquad games in South Bend were no substitute for 144 AAA or AA games.
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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 08:10:22 pm »
Flip side is Bryant, Rizzo and Baez all under performed and the Cubs still won the division. 

With COVID affecting teams finances and all the Cubs players being expensive with little control the best course might be to play it out next year.
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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2020, 08:16:09 pm »
The intrasquad games in South Bend were no substitute for 144 AAA or AA games.

True enough, but 2020 was just a write-off of a year generally.  What a chain of disaster it's been.

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2020, 12:47:26 pm »
I would add Alzolay to the list of what might be coming from the minors.

Bennett

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2020, 02:50:19 pm »
Is Theo history?

Gordon Wittenmyer  @GDubCub  54m
When Theo signed the 5yr/$50m extension that runs thru 2021, it was viewed as his final contract in that position (because of his long-held, 10-year-shelf-life philosophy). So does he choose to hand off to Hoyer 1 year early (+ presumably free up $10m)?  The scoop by @thekapman
 

NBC Sports Chicago  @NBCSChicago  1h
Theo Epstein will meet with Tom Ricketts to discuss the timeline of his exit, sources tell @thekapman

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cubs/theo-epstein-exit-cubs-tom-ricketts-future

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 04:30:27 pm »
That'd definitely be interesting if he moves on this offseason.  It might also give us a little more leeway for a rebuild or at least a significant retooling.  Hoyer would definitely have a lot more leeway to hit the reset button on a lot of things with this team if he's running the show on his own.
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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2020, 04:57:36 pm »
I assume for Theo to do that he would want Hoyer to have a contract well past 2021. I don't know what Hoyer's contractual status is currently.  Under those circumstances, given the last couple of years, I could see Theo doing that I guess.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2020, 05:34:53 pm »
Interesting.  Easy to think that Theo isn't going to want to do a rebuild with us.  Wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't interested in moving his career in a different direction from running a baseball team, anyway?  Could stick with Cubs long-term through another rebuild.  Could look for an underachieving big-budget team; Mets or Angels or somebody like that?  Or perhaps he'd like to take a shot with a small-market franchise, where success would be credits to leadership brains not bucks?  I think he's talked about enjoying some of the challenges of making it work with the Padres when he worked there. 

But I also wonder whether he wouldn't like to consider maybe transitioning to something in the social-causes front, and move away from baseball? 

Ron, Theo and Hoyer both have contracts that run through next year.  If I was Ricketts, I'm not sure I'd want to guarantee an extension for Hoyer at this point to carry it well beyond next year. 

If the condition for Theo stepping away from his 21 salary was to extend Hoyer for an extra 5-year contract, I'd maybe decline doing that?  It might be a good time to bring in a different baseball boss than Hoyer, somebody who might have more experience in player evaluation and a better eye for talent evaluation? 

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2020, 06:09:10 pm »
I believe Theo has expressed an interest in owning a baseball team. I'd be surprised if he takes on another role like the one he had with the Cubs and Red Sox.

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2020, 06:11:21 pm »
But I also wonder whether he wouldn't like to consider maybe transitioning to something in the social-causes front, and move away from baseball? 

I've wondered for a long time that he's eventually going to get into politics. It seems to me like he has signaled that from time to time, both in how he has handled controversies with the Cubs and in how he acts in his personal life. I think his work with the Red Sox and Cubs gives him enough name recognition and credibility to make him competitive in high profile politics immediately.

I assume he's still very popular in Massachusetts. If Biden wins next month, Elizabeth Warren will almost certainly be offered a position in the administration and they'll have a special election for her seat next year. So if he does have political aspirations, it wouldn't surprise me wants to re-establish his residency in Massachusetts as soon as possible. That would require resigning from the Cubs.

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Re: Cubs in '21
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2020, 06:50:34 pm »
If Warren does enter the cabinet, it would be a shock if Kennedy doesn't get her Senate seat.