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Deeg

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #750 on: December 09, 2022, 11:37:26 pm »
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #752 on: December 10, 2022, 07:58:00 am »
I saw a tweet that Morosi was saying Dansby could get $200 million.  He would fit in a lot better with the Cardinals, since they already have offensive studs.

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #753 on: December 10, 2022, 09:37:59 am »
This is both weird and irrelevant, but there is, believe it or not, an assessment of "winners" of the offseason so far from MLB.com that has the Cubs as #3, behind the Padres and the Cards.  That should make everyone feel better.  ;)

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-hot-stove-winners-in-2022-offseason?partnerId=zh-20221210-779085-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20221210-779085-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=6fN7Ybq6xF0WEFWRCpuo%2BW9lhT2xhMom4xWmCOEsWtLtiPi8sMZUw1vdEF7rn7YU&bt_ts=1670681529009

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #754 on: December 10, 2022, 09:40:32 am »
Kind of a weird assessment there, Ron.  He appears to believe that the Cubs would be a sleeper contender for a wild card finish even if they don't acquire a SS.  Hard to see that.

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #755 on: December 10, 2022, 10:06:44 am »
An interesting video clip with Ian Happ, Zach Short & Dakota Mekkes from the compound on the question of whether you would take less money to play with a team that puts you in a better situation?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601259617887039488

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #756 on: December 10, 2022, 10:37:26 am »
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Bruce Levine on The Score this morning talking about how the money is there, but 8, 9, 10 years might not be "intelligent spending." That is, to my ear, a new message for him since the start of the shortstop chase - calling back to "intelligent spending" and talking about years.


If this is true, I'll call back to something that was posted yesterday from a Mooney article:

3.  "Jed Hoyer’s baseball operations group will have to readjust and react to .... market forces."


Refusing to go to 8-10 years on a star player when the money is available is just a failure to "react to to market forces," IMO. That's what it costs to get star players. If he's going to refuse to ever spend what it takes to get elite players, then I'm not sure this team will ever be truly competitive again until there's a new GM who is willing to go out of his comfort zone occasionally.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #757 on: December 10, 2022, 10:42:40 am »
Just to be clear, was that quote about "8, 9, 10 years might not be "intelligent spending" from Bruce Levine or Hoyer? 
If it was Levine, then he's presumably just speculating. Perhaps we'll find out
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craig

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #758 on: December 10, 2022, 11:24:30 am »
Just to be clear, was that quote about "8, 9, 10 years might not be "intelligent spending" from Bruce Levine or Hoyer? 
If it was Levine, then he's presumably just speculating. Perhaps we'll find out

Thanks, Ron.  Yes, a whole lot of "just speculating" that happens. 

I also kinda sympathize with Hoyer re the "intelligent spending" phrase.  It seemed perfectly reasonable and appropriate wording in the context of that press conference when I listened to it.  But now that gets quoted, often pejoratively, over and over and over.  I kinda feel like it's been unfair.

"Perhaps we'll find out" will apply this year if and only if he signs Correa.  If he does, obviously we'll know Hoyer was willing to go long.  But if he does not, we'll never really know why not.  If Correa goes elsewhere, it could be Cubs holding line on years yes; but it could also be a dozen other factors.   
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #759 on: December 10, 2022, 11:36:01 am »
Intelligent spending=continuing to act like a small market team.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #760 on: December 10, 2022, 11:43:20 am »
There is nothing wrong with advocating for "intelligent spending" as long as you realize that it isn't intelligent to spend like a mid-market team when you have the resources to go big.
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« Reply #761 on: December 10, 2022, 12:19:25 pm »
Giants, Twins, Cubs are among teams in on Carlos Correa, who has the advantages of being a little younger than Bogaerts and Turner and also having no qualifying offer.--Heyman

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #762 on: December 10, 2022, 12:38:49 pm »
I've gotta admit, *IF* the cubs hypothetically added both Correa and Senga, I'd be really fired up and hopeful.  I think we'd have a very plausible chance to be very good.  Right now, this season, not years away.  Even *if* that meant scrambling and leaving all other holes untouched. 

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #763 on: December 10, 2022, 02:39:49 pm »
All it takes is making the playoffs to have a chance. Adding Correa and Senga would give us that chance.

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #764 on: December 10, 2022, 03:44:44 pm »
I wonder what Mancini will end up signing for?

He’d fill a gap at both 1B and DH, as well as OF if needed, and by all accounts would be a quality guy in the clubhouse/dugout.