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Reb

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #1620 on: January 18, 2023, 02:29:03 pm »
Matt Strahm got 2/$15 this off-season and Chafin is going to do better than that.

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« Reply #1621 on: January 18, 2023, 02:29:44 pm »
Going over the Lux tax line the first time is not much of a problem, other than the loss of IFA money.  But going over the second year in a row gets extremely expensive, and going over it for the third year in a row can be devestating.  That is why both the Dodgers and the Yankees, who have more money than God, trim their salary in the third year.

Since almost all teams avoid going over it three times in a row, then it makes sense to hold back on that first year until it is worth while.  Why waste that first year when you will have no reasonable chance to be a top tier team?  You then have only two years at best before you have to cut back substantially.  That is a big problem if your goal is to be a top tier team over a longer period of time.

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« Reply #1622 on: January 20, 2023, 02:42:19 am »
Leiter cleared waivers, interestingly.  Outrighted to Iowa.

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« Reply #1623 on: January 20, 2023, 07:28:00 am »
Now he has an opportunity to decline the outright assignment and elect free agency.

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #1624 on: January 20, 2023, 10:32:02 am »
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Deeg

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« Reply #1625 on: January 20, 2023, 07:12:41 pm »
Kay DFA’d, can Julian Merryweather be far behind?  Seems like most of these waiver grabs end up guys the Cubs try and sneak through waivers themselves eventually.

Isn’t Julian Merryweather the name of the guy on the Monopoly box?

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« Reply #1626 on: January 20, 2023, 07:41:17 pm »
Frank Merrywell, all american hero.
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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #1627 on: January 20, 2023, 08:58:03 pm »
...The Cubs have had a good track record of salvaging relievers and flipping them at the deadline.  ... 

This is true. But I think Hoyer is in a different place this round, and can't do it like he did before.  We remember the hits, but don't remember Daniel Norris and Jesse Chavez (last year) or Rex Brothers, Daniel Workman, Dan Winkler, and Alec Mills being given roster-spots two years ago.  We don't have the same space on the 40- or the 26-man rosters now.  Plus I think Hoyer wants to win this year, so may not wanting to be giving 2-4 spots to Norris-Workman types. 

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« Reply #1628 on: January 20, 2023, 10:19:50 pm »
He has signed several already.  Boxberger and Merryweather on the 40, and Borucki, Neidert, Elias and Stout to minor league contracts and most with NRI to spring training.  They can now evaluate them during spring training and promote any that they think deserve at the appropriate time.  I expect them to sign at least a couple more before spring training.  And then scour the waiver wire when other teams release players at the end of the spring.  There are always more misses than hits, but the misses are essentially free, while the hits are free money, so to speak.

If they can get a Sampson or two to be a long term part of the team, or flip them for someone with more potential, every little bit helps.

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« Reply #1629 on: January 20, 2023, 10:26:22 pm »
Yeah, I think there's a big difference between the non-roster guys who you can park at Iowa, versus guys who are given big-league roster spots. 

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« Reply #1630 on: January 20, 2023, 10:48:25 pm »
I agree.  But there still may be room for a Marten type reliever that can both help the team and be flipped in mid season when they have more information about potential replacements from Iowa.

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« Reply #1631 on: January 21, 2023, 02:17:19 pm »
There's probably not enough money left for even one of them [Chafin or Fullmer], let alone both.

May not be those guys.  But Hoyer has been talking bullpen since the season ended; long after Boxberger, and he continued to be referencing bullpen at convention.  I don't think he was just talking about non-rosters and waiver claims. 

Not sure who, and perhaps I'll be disappointed.  But I think he still expects to sign a non-minimum FA to a roster spot. 


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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #1632 on: January 21, 2023, 03:16:35 pm »
Adbert Alzolay seems to have a pretty strong preference to be a reliever. And he seems particularly excited about the idea of being a closer.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1616863618015928321

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« Reply #1633 on: January 21, 2023, 04:43:12 pm »
He may well be able to perform as a closer, but I doubt that he can beat Estrada for the job.

I have no problem using him as a long reliever for a while, but I hate to see someone that has the ability to be a good starter wasted in the bull pen.  If he can't do it, that is fine, but I would like to see him have a legitimate trial as a starter before he hits free agency, for his sake as well as the Cubs.

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Re: Cubs in ‘23
« Reply #1634 on: January 21, 2023, 05:40:02 pm »
2023 will be Alzolay’s ELEVENTH season as a Cubs prospect. He turns 28 in a few weeks.

I say enough is enough trying to develop him as a starting pitcher. With his inability to stay healthy and his big lefty/righty splits, Cubs are doing the right thing using him out of the bullpen.

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