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craig

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10590 on: September 16, 2022, 01:34:41 pm »
Given the recent discussion about Devers, and where his fastball falls on the antiawful-to-average spectrum, I thought the coaches comments were helpful.  “The velocity is not going to overpower anybody."  "if you just look at pure stuff, he may be on the bottom of that list".  "The breaking ball is not going to get a ton of swing and miss." 


It's not a direct quote from the coach, but the article says "Devers’ fast arm action creates effective deception, even without elite fastball velocity. Cougoule believes Devers, 22, still could see added velocity as his body continues to mature and get stronger."

"“He’s a pitcher in the highest sense,” Cougoule said. “The velocity is not going to overpower anybody. The breaking ball is not going to get a ton of swing and miss, but he’ll throw the changeup in any count. He’ll mix tempos, whether he’ll quick pitch out of the wind. He just has an elite feel for the strike zone.”  "“He’s already pretty special,” Cougoule said. “He oozes confidence. And it’s funny because, again, when you see the starters that we send out there, if you just look at pure stuff, he may be on the bottom of that list. But I think from a confidence level and who he is and what he thinks himself, he’s probably at the top of the list. And that goes a long way to things you just can’t quantify in baseball.”


Adding a little bit more would be fun.  I imagine confidence really is a big deal, and it's easier to have when you've been rolling all season. Will it stick if/when he gets hit harder in future?  Who knows.  Still, having "elite feel for the strike zone" is kind of great for confidence!  If you can spot different pitches where and when you want, it's fun.  A terrible analogy, but I think of Johnny Cueto; he had great stuff when he was young, so I'm sure no Cueto scouting reports at age 22 had any "not going to overpower anybody", "pure stuff on bottom of list", "breaking ball not going to get swing and miss" reports.  But Cueto's pitched a lot of good seasons after his velocity was no longer overpowering, and I think of all of his fun quick-pitch and funky stuff.  it would be fun to have somebody like that. 

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10591 on: September 16, 2022, 07:22:59 pm »
Palencia mowing em down early in South Bend's must-win.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10592 on: September 16, 2022, 09:59:15 pm »
SB wins it - 3-5 with 2 SB for PCA, 5-2-0-0-0-8 for Palencia.

Ben Brown Ks 8 in 4 innings for Tennessee.  He’s interesting.


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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10594 on: September 17, 2022, 01:17:43 pm »
The average for a starter is 93.6 mph.  Righties will be higher and lefties lower.
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10596 on: September 17, 2022, 04:49:49 pm »
Palencia, what a fun way to end his season.  Has to be good for the off-season frame of mind. 

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10597 on: September 17, 2022, 05:34:11 pm »

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10601 on: September 20, 2022, 02:54:17 pm »
Baseball America “Under the Radar Prospects With Great Curveballs”

Riley Martin, LHP, Cubs

The lone lefthander on this list, Martin also throws the most traditional downer style curveball, getting more than a foot of vertical drop on the pitch. Drafted in the sixth round of the 2021 draft out of Division II Quincy (Ill.), Martin was a starter for parts of five seasons for the Hawks, but has worked almost exclusively as a multi-inning reliever as a professional. After making his pro debut with Low-A Myrtle Beach following the 2021 draft, Martin returned to the level to begin 2022. He dominated across four appearances with the Pelicans, striking out 27 batters across 13.1 innings of work. He saw a promotion to High-A South Bend at the beginning of May and made 27 appearances for the Cubs, striking out 93 batters across 69.1 innings of work. Martin works primarily off of a low-to-mid-90s four-seam fastball, mixing in a trio of secondaries in a mid-80s slider, a mid-to-high-80s changeup and a low-80s curveball. Martin sits 80-83 mph on the pitch, generating over a foot of vertical drop with average spin rates in the 2,600-2,700 rpm range. Batters struggled against the pitch this season, hitting just .120 against it with a whiff rate above 40% and a groundball rate north of 50%. An older small school college arm with a unique lefthanded pitch mix and an innate feel for spin, Martin could carve out a role as a matchup-driven lefthanded reliever capable of getting six outs each outing.
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10602 on: September 20, 2022, 07:05:50 pm »
Canario hits his first AAA homer tonight (44 PAs).

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10603 on: September 20, 2022, 07:59:19 pm »
Hit his 2nd one shortly thereafter, Reb.  Canario must like hitting in the 2 hole in front of Mervis.  Iowa in the 4th, leading 8-5. 

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