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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10710 on: October 18, 2022, 01:53:48 pm »
Yep.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10711 on: October 18, 2022, 06:42:06 pm »
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10712 on: October 19, 2022, 08:21:50 am »
I would tend to believe the season long stats over Law's analysis of a few games in the AFL.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10713 on: October 20, 2022, 02:05:18 pm »
Keith Law chat

addoeh: Being compared to Daniel Vogelbach only sounds bad if you think you have Anthony Rizzo 2.0.
Keith Law: Agreed. It was also very strange to get that kind of reaction about a prospect in a system that’s loaded with guys who are top 100 prospects or banging on the door – PCA, Triantos, Alcantara, Made, etc. It’s not like it’s Mervis or nothing over there.

Dave: As the only Cubs fan not currently furious with you, what did you see from Owen Cassie at AFL? I promise not to throw a tantrum if the answer isn’t to my liking.
Keith Law: I wish I’d seen more, actually. I liked him in the spring, but didn’t get many swings from him in the AFL.

Aaron: First you criticize the Cubs for getting overly cute in the draft and taking a pitcher in a top-heavy hitting class. Then you trash an UDFA with a short track record of success. Why do you hate us so???
Keith Law: Heh. To be fair, I didn’t trash Mervis. I explained what I saw, which is consistent with the data from his time in the high minors AND with what other scouts who’ve seen him told me. I think he has some big league value.

Kevin Made: Did you get Cristian Hernández and I mixed up in your earlier response to the Mervis question?
Also thoughts on Jordan Wicks’ new slider? Stuff+ loves it. Does it bump his ceiling up?
Keith Law: I did not confuse the two of you.
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10714 on: October 20, 2022, 03:53:14 pm »
The biochemist with 4K in 2 shutout AFL innings yesterday.  11K/3BB/8H/1HR/7.2 IP down in AFL.  Nothing spectacular, but not bad in a league with lots of scoring and not much pitching.

Bailey Horn weirder small-sample numbers.  6K/5BB/4H/0ER/9 IP.  Some good BABIP luck going on there, I think, 6/5 K/BB not too hot. 

I think the Cubs lefty-reliever pool is very thin.  So it would be very helpful if one or both of these lefties emerged as usable big-league lefties on a winning team. 

Herz and Luke Little may someday join the lefty-reliever pool.  But whether either will have sufficient control remains to be seen. 

In both cases I hope they resolve their control enough that they can remain in the rotation pool.  My developmental hope for both guys is that they improve their control, that will help them whether they start or relieve.  And partly my thought is that *IF* they can limit the command problems, as would be desirable for relief, might doing so perhaps also qualify them for rotation? 

In Little's case, for example, I'm not sure we ever saw him pitch deep enough to get tired, or to get exposed on 2nd or 3rd time through? I don't think there were many/any where he was great for two innings, but then got tired and struggled?  On days he was sharp he just dominated everybody; other days he wasn't and didn't.  But *IF* he was hypothetically able to throw strikes more consistently, is there any reason to assume he wouldn't be strong enough to hold his stuff through 5 innings? 

I'm kinda curious to see how he progresses next year.  Will he still start?  If so, will he be allowed to go deeper than 50 pitches?  Will his control get better?  Will his fastball any faster?  Seems to me that *IF* Breslow could hypothetically get more control out of Little, who knows how good he might be? 




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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10715 on: October 20, 2022, 03:59:03 pm »
...Keith Law: Heh. To be fair, I didn’t trash Mervis. I explained what I saw, which is consistent with the data from his time in the high minors AND with what other scouts who’ve seen him told me. I think he has some big league value....


Laws comment that other scouts agree is helpful to read, even if I'd have preferred that it was strictly Law's observation based on perhaps a small sample.  He may well be right. 


What he wrote is that Mervis didn't have "great" bat speed.  I wonder if perhaps there aren't a bunch of guys who are good hitters without *great* bat speed? 

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10716 on: October 20, 2022, 04:05:15 pm »
I wonder if perhaps there aren't a bunch of guys who are good hitters without *great* bat speed?

Yes.  Most of them.
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10717 on: October 20, 2022, 04:46:59 pm »
Vogelbach has a wRC+ of 127 for his career against righties. Multiple years of cheap,’strong sided platoon is useful.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10718 on: October 20, 2022, 06:47:55 pm »
Another ex-Cub farmhand I’ve seen comped to Marvis is Justin Bour, who had three seasons similar to Vogelbach’s 2022 season.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10720 on: October 22, 2022, 10:46:11 am »
He looked pretty smooth on that play, Chris.  It would be great if he hits in ST and earns a chance to start in CF come April.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10721 on: October 22, 2022, 07:00:01 pm »
He looked pretty smooth on that play, Chris.  It would be great if he hits in ST and earns a chance to start in CF come April.

Well, not until the service time manipulation is finished, at least.

I think the Cubs feel pretty OK with Canario's ability to handle CF until the Crowening, if necessary.  More so than Davis.  It'll be the bat that determines when they decide he's ready.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10722 on: October 22, 2022, 10:02:20 pm »

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10723 on: October 22, 2022, 10:22:42 pm »
Canario again in the field:

https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/1583962618443993091

Looked like he got a bit of a late start, but he made up for it with his speed and diving catch.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10724 on: October 22, 2022, 10:28:23 pm »
Yeah, still stepping back when the camera gets out to him.  But wow, the actual catch part looked really difficult. 

Would sure love to see him make enough contact to make it as a hitter.