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Reb

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #10875 on: December 03, 2022, 02:39:18 pm »
As we know, Hamilton was a pre-arranged trade.

Cubs were given a name—Hamilton- and made the pick for the club who wanted him.

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« Reply #10876 on: December 06, 2022, 10:25:56 am »
Marquez resigned with Cubs on a minor league deal.

Draft lottery is tonight.

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« Reply #10877 on: December 06, 2022, 10:51:22 am »
Marquez resigned with Cubs on a minor league deal.

Draft lottery is tonight.

Nice with Marquez.  Injured guys can sometimes get healthy.  The latent talent that he had before the injuries may still all be there, and may become big-league worthy again at some point? 

Nervous for Rule 5. 

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« Reply #10878 on: December 06, 2022, 12:04:37 pm »
I think players signed today to minor league deals today aren't eligible for the minor league draft.

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« Reply #10879 on: December 06, 2022, 12:14:19 pm »
I'm not nervous for Brailyn, I'm nervous as regards Thompson, Devers, and Franklin.  And even for Sanders and Correa, I'd kinda like to see where they might be by August if we keep them.  Any or all of those 5 might be much more valuable property next August then they seem now. 

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« Reply #10880 on: December 06, 2022, 12:25:16 pm »
For Marquez, he supposedly had some shoulder surgery during June.  My simplistic stereotype is that elbow TJ is common-place and often followed by complete recovery, whereas "shoulder surgery" is less common for pitchers, and is simplistically stereotyped as more serious, often more long-lasting in terms of rehab, and less likely to be followed by complete recovery.  So I've kinda assumed he'd basically miss summer 2023 as well, and wouldn't pitch in a full-season box-score game until 2024. 

But I'm guessing that's way oversimplified, and each shoulder issue is case by case?  They don't all end up being Mark Prior?  I'm seeing "surgical debridement procedure" in one tweet for Brailyn.   Is that really not necessarily that severe?  A quick google suggests as little as 8-12 weeks to return to normal activities.  (Which obviously pitching is not.).

Is it possible that Brailyn will be pitching in camp in spring training, and might be pitching in Myrtle Beach as early as May? 

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« Reply #10881 on: December 06, 2022, 12:45:56 pm »
I have no idea when he's going to be pitching again, but not every shoulder issue is a death sentence for a pitcher.  They are a lot harder to recover from than an elbow though.

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« Reply #10882 on: December 06, 2022, 12:47:39 pm »
For Marquez, he supposedly had some shoulder surgery during June.  My simplistic stereotype is that elbow TJ is common-place and often followed by complete recovery, whereas "shoulder surgery" is less common for pitchers, and is simplistically stereotyped as more serious, often more long-lasting in terms of rehab, and less likely to be followed by complete recovery.  So I've kinda assumed he'd basically miss summer 2023 as well, and wouldn't pitch in a full-season box-score game until 2024. 

But I'm guessing that's way oversimplified, and each shoulder issue is case by case?  They don't all end up being Mark Prior?  I'm seeing "surgical debridement procedure" in one tweet for Brailyn.   Is that really not necessarily that severe?  A quick google suggests as little as 8-12 weeks to return to normal activities.  (Which obviously pitching is not.).

Is it possible that Brailyn will be pitching in camp in spring training, and might be pitching in Myrtle Beach as early as May? 

I think the rule 5 is going to be more interesting this year.  You have 2 years worth of guys to choose from, so I wonder just how many teams want to pigeon holed into carrying somebody for a whole year vs having more flexibility. 

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« Reply #10883 on: December 06, 2022, 07:21:33 pm »
I have no idea when he's going to be pitching again, but not every shoulder issue is a death sentence for a pitcher.  They are a lot harder to recover from than an elbow though.

Urías came back quite well from his shoulder injury.

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« Reply #10884 on: December 07, 2022, 04:14:51 pm »
RHP Chris Clarke was selected by the Seattle Mariners in the first round of the Rule 5 draft.

The Cubs declined to make a selection.
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« Reply #10885 on: December 07, 2022, 04:36:53 pm »
ESPN confirms what I said earlier:  Oakland asked too much.

A high-stakes game of catcher poker that ended Wednesday began on Monday, when St. Louis was nearing a trade for Oakland A's catcher Sean Murphy. The return needed to land Oakland's All-Star got too high for the Cardinals, so they pivoted their attention to free agent Contreras. Cardinals president John Mozeliak's interest in Contreras remained throughout the week, but St. Louis pivoted back to Murphy discussions for a quick moment when the asking price seemed to be coming down.

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« Reply #10886 on: December 07, 2022, 04:38:14 pm »
Hope we get him back, but if not, so it goes.  Seattle makes sense to pick him, DiPito has a stated preference for control guys, and figures their development can jack up velocity and stuff for anybody. 
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« Reply #10887 on: December 07, 2022, 04:52:37 pm »
He has mostly been a starter for the Cubs, but will almost certainly be in their bullpen this year, if they keep him.

I thought he was promising, but would rather lose him than Kohl Franklin or Devers.

Of course, I might change my mind when he wins the Cy Young Award.

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« Reply #10888 on: December 07, 2022, 06:43:03 pm »
FWIW, I had Clarke as my #37 Cubs prospect, while Luis A. Rodriguez came in at 92.

92.   RHSwing Luis A. Rodriguez  6’1” 190 Lbs  L/L (199909) [2017-MX] Selected to 2018 DSL All star team; 61/7 K/W in 61 DSL IP with 38 Hits allowed and 0.73 ERA.  Opened 2019 in AZL where he posted a 44/24 K/W in 47 IP with a 0.249 BAA.  Luis opened 2021 back in the ACL where he dominated; 39/7 K/W in 26 IP with a 0.156 BAA and 2 HRA.  He was then promoted to low-A where he posted a 18/5 K/W in 10.1 IP with a 0.143 BAA.  To install some humility? the Cubs promoted him to AAA in late September where he gave up 8 earned runs in one 2 inning stint.  In 2022, Luis opened in low-A where he was hard to hit but wild finishing with a 106/51 K/W in 69 low-A IP with a 0.202 BAA. 

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« Reply #10889 on: December 07, 2022, 07:43:26 pm »
Carter Hawkins said the lefty they took in the minor league draft gets up to 98.