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ben

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5730 on: November 09, 2018, 07:08:42 pm »
A savior?  No.  Possible major league pitching depth?  Maybe.  More is better.

Theo et al will likely CONTINUE to find ways to build strong pitching staffs, whether by FA or otherwise...Leal may help!  Or maybe not. 

Our minor league pitching hasn't produced yet; however, what's also true is that - clearly - our front office has strongly prioritized drafting and developing every-day players rather than pitchers...and it's likely many other front offices now wish they'd done the same!

I wouldn't throw in the towel on Leal or our overall pitching pipeline.  Leal - and the pipeline - may produce in a year or two or three.  Of course, with pitching, it's rather hard to predict.


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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5731 on: November 10, 2018, 05:50:08 pm »
Mesa's game is on MLB Network tonight @ 7 Central.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5732 on: November 10, 2018, 07:18:49 pm »
Hoerner turned a double into a triple and Giabronne with some nice nice two strike hitting to get the ball in play and drive him in.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5733 on: November 10, 2018, 07:44:26 pm »
Hoerner hits the ball hard to RF and flies out on the track in AB #2.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5734 on: November 10, 2018, 10:04:28 pm »
Hoerner: 1-5, 3B, E

Giambrone: 3-5, 2B, RBI, SB, E

Clark: 2-4-0-0-1-1

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5735 on: November 14, 2018, 10:24:14 am »
Longenhagen on his podcast with McDaniel discussed some AFL Cubs.

Leal 87-90 with a plus curve. He isn’t a huge fan and thinks he might be more of a 2 pitch reliever that just throws his curve.

Giambrone he likes more than Bote. Less power, but more positional defensive value.

Hoerner isn’t as running as well as he did in the spring, but Longenhagen doesn’t think it is an issue. He thinks the Cubs tweaked his swing and it has unlocked more power. The arm is an issue with him possibly sticking a SS, but he can field the position well.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5736 on: November 14, 2018, 01:41:48 pm »
The Arizona Fall League championship game will be on the MLB network Saturday at 2:08  CST (and replayed later).

The Mesa Solar Sox are 1½  games back of Salt River with two games to play.  Both games are against last place Surprise.  The ½ game is due to a tie.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5737 on: November 14, 2018, 08:58:00 pm »
Leal gave up 6 earned runs in his appearance on Tuesday. So much for the scoreless streak.

MLB.com recapping the AFL:

Nico Hoerner, SS, Cubs' No. 6

The Cubs' 2018 first-rounder's inexperience has been a non-factor in the AFL, where he's hit .321 and looked like a player straight out of Double-A, and one possibly even on the cusp of the Majors. That's not to say that Hoerner will springboard up the ladder in such fashion in 2019 -- but he certainly could. At the plate, he has a knack for barreling the ball to all fields, can handle velocity and adjust to secondaries, and he has more juice in his bat than you'd expect. His arm stroke is a little stiff at shortstop, but it plays up because he creatively finds ways to achieve a good slot, has sound footwork and consistently follows his throws with his body. He's a very, very solid ballplayer.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5738 on: November 14, 2018, 11:19:57 pm »
The Mesa and Salt River both won so the Solar Sox won't be playing in the AFL championship game on Saturday afternoon.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5739 on: November 16, 2018, 09:49:38 am »
From The Athletic (re Mesa's AFL team):

Player of the Fall: Nico Hoerner, SS, Cubs
89 AB, .337/.362/.506, 30 H, 10 R, 4 2B, 4 3B, 1 HR, 11 RBI

Runner-up: Eli White, SS, Athletics
Quickly acknowledged as one of the hardest-working players to arrive in Arizona, Nico Hoerner found a way to set himself apart and did so quickly, specifically at the plate.
Still fresh into his career, the Cubs’ 2018 first-round pick is a sound defender. It’s still being debated on whether Hoerner will stay at shortstop or if a move to second base may occur.
Hoerner, 21, has an innate ability to maneuver the barrel with advanced strike zone control, and as he showed this fall, contact comes naturally. There is a lot of growth ahead for Hoerner, but his progress over such a short period of time has been impossible to ignore.
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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5740 on: November 16, 2018, 01:20:07 pm »
By Jim Callis MLB.com @JimCallisMLB
Nov. 15th, 2018

MESA, Ariz. -- "Both Nico Hoerner and the Cubs were excited to see how he'd fare in his first taste of pro ball after they drafted him 24th overall in June. But his pro debut lasted just 14 games before he strained ligaments in his left elbow diving for a ball in July.
One of the purposes of the Arizona Fall League is to help prospects make up for lost at-bats and innings. Hoerner took full advantage of the opportunity, emerging as one of the best hitters in the developmental league despite his lack of pro experience. He concluded his season with a three-hit day on Thursday, stroking a pair of doubles and driving in three runs as his Mesa Solar Sox outlasted the Surprise Saguaros 11-10.
Hoerner said he was thankful to the Cubs for giving him the opportunity to play in the AFL. The only other 2018 draftee in the league this fall was Mesa right-hander Calvin Coker, a 15th-round pick by the Athletics.
"They trusted me a lot," Hoerner said. "They knew I'd make the most of it, whether the results were great or not, I'd make the most of it development-wise. That was my goal going into it, and I think I did a good job of that."
After batting .327/.450/.571 with two homers and six steals in 14 games across three levels during his truncated pro debut, Hoerner hit .337/.362/.506 with a homer and a steal in 21 games for the Solar Sox. He tied for the Fall League lead with four triples, ranked second with 30 hits and placed third with 45 total bases.
During his time in Arizona, Hoerner stood out with his ability to handle the bat and use the entire field. The Stanford product also showed glimpses of sneaky power. Some scouts question whether his actions and arm fit better at shortstop, where he spent most of his time with Mesa, or at second base, but there are no worries about his ability to produce at the plate.
Hoerner said the Fall League helped him learn what he needed to improve going forward. Though he had a lot of success at the plate, he also drew just two walks versus 16 strikeouts in 94 plate appearances.
"I feel like I understand already what I do that works for me at this level, but also things I really need to work on and got exposed in some ways," Hoerner said. "So for me moving forward, it helps my offseason knowing what I need to work on a lot. Pitch selection and approach, not so much I need to revamp my swing or anything but just getting to know how pitchers work and focusing on my strengths."

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5741 on: November 18, 2018, 02:20:35 pm »
From The Athletic: "AFL Report: Wrapping up the season with standouts from around the league"

For the Mesa Solar Sox, Eric Leal was Runner Up for "Pitcher of the Fall" and Nico Hoerner was "Player of the Fall."

https://theathletic.com/656666/2018/11/16/afl-report-wrapping-up-the-season-with-standouts-from-around-the-league/

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5742 on: November 19, 2018, 12:46:16 pm »
This is from mid-november but not sure if posted here before.

BA 2018 Cubs Draft Review:

Best Pure Hitter:  OF Cole Roederer (2s) showed an advanced feel to hit for a prep player, including an ability to use the whole field and a willingness to hang in against lefthanders. He showed an intriguing combination of power and speed in his pro debut … The Cubs liked Stanford SS Nico Hoerner (1) for his ability to put bat on ball. He whiffed no more than 29 times in each of his three seasons. He also showed an his ability to make every at-bat competitive. His pro debut was cut short by an elbow injury just one game after a promotion to low Class A South Bend.

Best Power:  Southern Miss 3B Luke Reynolds (10) took a circuitous path to the draft, but he has plus raw power now and put forth a 1.250 OPS in his final season in college … OF Brennen Davis' (2) strength, athleticism and lofted swing path also give him chance to develop above-average home run power as he gets older.

Fastest Baserunner:  OF Edmond Americaan (35) greatly improved his game with one year at Chipola JC. His toolset includes 70-grade speed, which he used to steal 11 bases in a 30-game pro debut in the Rookie-level Arizona League … Liberty OF D.J. Artis (7) isn't far behind Americaan, clocking in with plus speed on the 20-to-80 scouting scale.

Best Defensive Player:  The Cubs got a polished infielder when they took INF Andy Weber (5) out of Virginia. Weber, who spent time at shortstop, third base and second base during his time with the Cavaliers, has smooth hands, a quick transfer and an accurate arm that rates as a 60 on the 20-to-80 scouting scale.

Best Athlete: Davis also starred in basketball in high school, earning defensive player of the year honor in his home state of Arizona. His mother, Jakki, was a long jumper at the University of Washington.

Best Fastball: Louisville RHP Riley Thompson(11) ran his fastball up to 98 and sat in the 93-94 mph range in his pro debut. More than that, the Cubs say the pitch showed the carry and ride through the zone that makes the pitch play better when it's thrown in the upper part of the strike zone.

Best Secondary Pitch:  RHP Paul Richan (2s), taken out of the University of San Diego, has a full four-pitch arsenal and earns high marks for his ability to vary the shape and velocity on his slider. He can throw the pitch for strikes and chases and will do so to both sides of the plate.

Best Pro Debut: Hoerner was trending this way before his season was cut short, but Roederer takes the honor for his excellent turn in the AZL. Roederer ranked No. 7 on BA's AZL Top 20 list for his all-around blend of skills.

Most Intriguing Background: Both of Weber's parents are violinists, and his father plays professionally with the Cleveland Orchestra … In addition to his basketball background and athletic bloodlines, Davis also owns a pet goat and two pet llamas named Marco and Polo.

Best Late-Round Pick: The Cubs had long been intrigued by Americaan, whom they nabbed in the 35th round and signed for a round-high $208,950. The figure was also the highest bonus in their class after the seventh round.

The One Who Got Away: LHP Mitchell Parker (28) and RHP Tyler Ras (33) are a pair of projectable pitchers who may blossom in college.

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5743 on: November 19, 2018, 01:05:50 pm »
Thanks, reb, hadn't seen that, and includes some helpful observations. 
1.  That Davis has some loft and power potential. 
2.  That WEber is good on defense.  He K'd a ton as a draftee, but I'd assumed he was a 2B bat-first guy.  *If* his bat doesn't K all the time, the bar is a little lower if the defense is good. 
3.  The 93-94 report, with carry, for Thompson. 
4.  Richan as a 4-pitch guy who can manipulate his breaking pitch 

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Re: On The Farm
« Reply #5744 on: November 19, 2018, 06:06:39 pm »
Will the Cubs add anybody other than Steele to the 40-man roster tomorrow?