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Robert L

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« Reply #2205 on: October 25, 2017, 10:44:16 pm »
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« Reply #2206 on: November 20, 2017, 04:46:10 pm »
Jes


What about the 16,000+ actual climate scientists who just published a joint statement warning about the future effects of global climate change?


400/16000 = 0.025%

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« Reply #2207 on: December 12, 2017, 09:34:13 pm »
With 9% of the vote still to be counted, I don't want to get too excited.  But the AP and CNN have called it, so...

GREAT JOB ALABAMA!
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« Reply #2208 on: December 12, 2017, 09:43:56 pm »
Only 11k lead with about 80k to count.... Cannot believe how close this is...

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« Reply #2209 on: December 12, 2017, 09:58:26 pm »
With 9% of the vote still to be counted, I don't want to get too excited.  But the AP and CNN have called it, so...

GREAT JOB ALABAMA!

Good that they didnít elect him. Bad, very bad, that it was ever in doubt.
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« Reply #2210 on: December 12, 2017, 10:08:05 pm »
Good that they didnít elect him. Bad, very bad, that it was ever in doubt.

I agree. But Alabama usually gives Republicans 70% of the vote without thinking, so it's big progress.

I grew up in Alabama, and Roy Moore has been on my radar as a terrible person for about 15 years, not just the last month...so this is especially satisfying for me.

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« Reply #2211 on: December 12, 2017, 10:14:12 pm »
With 9% of the vote still to be counted, I don't want to get too excited.  But the AP and CNN have called it, so...

GREAT JOB ALABAMA!

I just hope this is a wake up call for the Republican party not to nominate lunatics like Moore and to tune out the con artists who pump up their candidacies during the primaries. 

Probably not, but sooner or later you have to stop nominating the Roy Moore's, the Christine O'Donnell's, and the Richard Mourdock's of the world. 

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« Reply #2212 on: December 12, 2017, 10:15:52 pm »
I grew up in Alabama, and Roy Moore has been on my radar as a terrible person for about 15 years, not just the last month...so this is especially satisfying for me.

Yeah Moore was absolutely terrible and repugnant even before the sexual assault with teenagers allegations came out. 
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« Reply #2213 on: December 12, 2017, 11:05:18 pm »
I agree. But Alabama usually gives Republicans 70% of the vote without thinking, so it's big progress.

I grew up in Alabama, and Roy Moore has been on my radar as a terrible person for about 15 years, not just the last month...so this is especially satisfying for me.

"Especially satisfying" would have been if the voters had tarred and feathered him, literally and physically.

The best aspect of this is that it will further weaken the influence of Steve Bannon.
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« Reply #2214 on: February 15, 2018, 02:16:14 pm »
I'm putting this here rather than posting in the Bleachers, Cubs in 2018, or any other topic.

As a former school administrator, killings like yesterday sicken me, but I worked with kids a long time, so whenever something like this happens, it concerns me when the media and the left immediately jump on gun control as the solution.  It isn't.  We've had guns in this country since the beginning, and, yet, horrific scenes like this are relatively recent.  I agree that there is no reason for silencers, automatic weapons, extended magazine, and the like, but even that is putting a band aid on cancer.   

So what has happened in the lat 30 years or so?  Worldwide instant news that give these monsters their 15 minutes of fame?  Social media where hate and frustration can be spouted and spewed?  Computer games where we can kill  thousands who come back to life?  Drugs that alter moods and minds?  You rarely hear anyone trying to limit those.

We do have a disease in this country which is the devaluation of life.  It's old fashioned but when we no longer believe in a higher power whether that's God or an ethical standard and resist teaching that in our schools because we want young minds to search for themselves...it leads to disaster. 
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« Reply #2215 on: February 15, 2018, 03:25:39 pm »
One of the things I thought about when I saw the story was that the school had 3,000 students in it.  High school can be overwhelming enough when you have 600-700 like the one I went to.  If you're an out of place kid in a school with 3,000 kids in it, I can imagine that can be pretty overwhelming indeed. 

With more and more people moving to urban areas and with public schools consolidating so much in a lot of places, I wonder if that contributes to a lot of the problems and angst that comes up.  It's definitely not like in my dad's day, when he went to a small town high school with maybe like 150-200 students in it.

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« Reply #2217 on: February 15, 2018, 03:40:38 pm »
And I'd agree that very strict gun control is putting a band aid on much of the problem.  In the UK, if you watch prime minister's questions which I actually kind of like doing from time to time, the subject of knife violence comes up at just about every one of those.  Granted perhaps having a knife violence problem is better than having a gun violence problem, but it doesn't get to the root of much of the problems in our culture and other instutitions. 

Still, that a troubled 19 year old can easily go and purchase an AR-15 weapon and do that kind of carnage shouldn't be happening. It seems like the only purposes of having an AR-15 is either to kill a significant number of people at one time or if you're a dude needing to compensate for something and this is the hobby you've come up with to do that . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw&t=196s

I watched that Youtube video today and was picturing that kid reacting much the same way while he was in that school.

You can have a 2nd Amendment and keep people like the Vegas shooter or the Parkland kid from having easy access to weapons like that at the same time.  If anything protecting law abiding citizens' rights to have a handgun to protect their families or a hunting rifle for sport should go hand in hand with keeping weapons like that off the market.  And sorry if that's your hobby, but that weapon doesn't need to be out there causing the type of carnage it has.
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« Reply #2218 on: February 15, 2018, 03:42:07 pm »
#career suicide

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« Reply #2219 on: February 15, 2018, 03:44:13 pm »
Curt, I agree there are any number of cultural factors at play, but I don't think you can tie it to "old fashioned" values or religion. There are plenty of secular, culturally liberal nations with much, much lower incidences of gun violence, to say nothing of all-out mass-shootings; and all their kids have the same 24 hr news cycle, social media, violent games, etc.

When you take a wider view of the issue of gun violence throughout the world, the problem becomes clear: the problem is guns. When you consider our number of guns per capita compared to other industrialized nations, we're off the chart. The fact that it's harder to get a drivers license than a FOID is nuts. There is an undeniable statistical correlation between gun ownership and gun crime. And until our legislators pass tougher gun control laws, these tragedies will continue to happen.



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