Author Topic: Politics, Religion, etc.  (Read 99696 times)

Robb

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« Reply #2295 on: February 16, 2018, 05:23:43 pm »
In the future I'll use simpler words for your sake, Jes.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2296 on: February 16, 2018, 05:24:02 pm »
Agreed.  The Dems need to improve, a lot, but they have a very long way to go before they can match the stupidity of electing Trump and spouting this nonsense that guns are not a problem and can't be controlled anyway.

They aren't, and you can't.  The cat is out of the bag on controlling firearms.

This was more than five years ago

And 3-D printing has advanced a long way since then.

And, of course it ignores the fact that any remotely competent mechanic can learn how to produce Kalishnakovs in any garage across the country.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2297 on: February 16, 2018, 05:25:26 pm »
Did the officer pistol whip her Jes?

Are you sane, start drinking early for the weekend, or just decide to ask a DUSTY question?

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2298 on: February 16, 2018, 05:27:38 pm »
verb (used with object), inferred, inferring.
1.
to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence:
They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.
2.
(of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.
3.
to guess; speculate; surmise.
4.
to hint; imply; suggest.



Number four is NOT a definition of infer.  Period.

It is a misunderstanding of the meaning of infer.  Just as many misunderstand the meaning of imply.

They are different words for a reason.  The fact that many misuse one or both (though usually it is using "infer" when they meant "imply") does not change the definition of either.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2299 on: February 16, 2018, 05:28:26 pm »
In the future I'll use simpler words for your sake, Jes.

Funny.  So, for MY sake, you will use words you are less likely to misuse.

Jack Birdbath

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« Reply #2300 on: February 16, 2018, 05:30:01 pm »
If the only options are 3D printing and self assembly, then the problem will be as solved as it ever can be. The number of guns can be severely reduced and the insane gun culture can be changed. It will just take resources from the government (maybe allocate a couple hundred billion of the many hundreds of billions that already go the military and direct it towards a gun buyback) and time. Cultural attitudes about things change all the time and they can on this one, too. 

JR

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« Reply #2301 on: February 16, 2018, 05:31:33 pm »
There's plenty of incentive for dysfunction on the left too.  The Democrats shut down the government because their progressive activists wanted DACA done without having to compromise with Republicans on any other immigration reform.  I was flipping through some of Politico's political cartoons, and there's one still calling Schumer and Pelosi wimps and spineless for not keeping the shutdown going.  Normal Dems ought to be thanking Schumer for not inflicting any more damage from that stunt than was already caused.  He probably knew that was a bad idea from the start.

Of course, Elizabeth Warren, Kristen Gillibrand, Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, etc and any other Dem who voted for the shutdown and to keep it going even after the rest of the Dems came to their senses has that on their record if they're the nominee against Trump in 2020.  Those are people who will have no business at all talking about how polarized our politics are and how dysfunctional Washington is, and it's probably likely one of them is the nominee in 2020.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2302 on: February 16, 2018, 05:36:06 pm »
If the only options are 3D printing and self assembly, then the problem will be as solved as it ever can be. The number of guns can be severely reduced and the insane gun culture can be changed.


It won't be solved.  It will be made much, much worse.  If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.... and THEY most certainly will have them.  Gun fatalities, at least in this country with gang violence and organized crime at levels not likely seen in most other countries, would soar.

davep

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« Reply #2303 on: February 16, 2018, 05:40:27 pm »

Also, some politicians reap benefits from keeping their constituents ignorant and afraid.

That would seem to apply to all politicians.

Robb

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« Reply #2304 on: February 16, 2018, 05:53:56 pm »
I'll take dictionary.com over your interpretation every time. Regardless, the fact you saw the need to correct my post when you clearly understood what I meant shows much more about your juvenile need for attention and the need to show your supposed mental superiority which you just think hides your underlying inferiority complex is more telling than my supposed lack of writing skill.

And by the way, syllable is not spelled sulable. Of course,  maybe in your world it is.
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« Reply #2305 on: February 16, 2018, 05:58:24 pm »
Speaking of syllables.  My wife and I were watching this British show the other night.  I was not aware that they pronounce aluminum completely differently than us.   They pronounce in a-lu-meen-i-um.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2306 on: February 16, 2018, 05:58:54 pm »
Also, let's just get it out there that the Kardashians do *not* cause gun violence.

As mentioned before, I don't know if the "values" argument holds water when so many secular, culturally liberal nations have much lower gun crime rates.

And for as "religious" as the US is, don't the vast majority of faith-professing individuals purport to serve a champion of non-violence who embodied enemy love to the point of giving up his life on a cross?

The Kardashians personally probably do not, but the celebrity culture we live in certainly does, with nearly all of the shooters being non-social losers who view themselves as nothings who could BECOME somethings, and achieve celebrity status, even if only briefly, for shooting up more people than the last nutjob did.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2307 on: February 16, 2018, 06:05:11 pm »
I don't think banning guns will help.  In this era of Kardashians, shock, internet and lack of family support, the guys who want to do something will find a way. It takes one kid learning how to build a bomb off internet and blowing up a school and we would have tons of copycats of that. And then we will all be talking about banning fertilizer. The problem needs addressing, not the symptoms. And no, I have no idea how to address the actual problem, but in this day, I think maybe it has to be school based when kids are young teaching them to value life and family, because too many aren't getting that at home?

Not to disagree at all with your basic point, because I agree with it, but assuming for the sake of argument that schools were to try teaching that (and pushed academics even further to the side), just how would you propose teaching kids to value life and family?

In particular how would you teach someone without a meaningful family how to value that family which they did not have?

Jes Beard

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« Reply #2308 on: February 16, 2018, 06:13:24 pm »
I'll take dictionary.com over your interpretation every time. Regardless, the fact you saw the need to correct my post when you clearly understood what I meant shows much more about your juvenile need for attention and the need to show your supposed mental superiority which you just think hides your underlying inferiority complex is more telling than my supposed lack of writing skill.

And by the way, syllable is not spelled sulable. Of course,  maybe in your world it is.


Actually, I did not correct your post, or even try to do so.  I made a light-hearted comment comment about a mistake many people make.

You would appear to prefer being wrong and not knowing it than in being right if it first requires learning and admitting you were wrong.  Mentioning your mistake could only be an effort to show "superiority" if I assumed most people do not understand the difference between the two and would somehow impress them.  I don't.

As to sulable.... you actually think that spelling on my part was serious and not to make light of this entire foolish exchange?

CUBluejays

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« Reply #2309 on: February 16, 2018, 06:25:47 pm »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/politics/parkland-shooting-fbi-tipster/index.html

I think this is also a important point of discussion The FBI was alerted about the shooter twice and did nothing.