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goblue007

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Robb

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Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4036 on: June 29, 2020, 10:14:06 pm »
Deaths and hospitalizations continue to go down as the virus moves to younger people.  Cases are up but that could be a good thing if it leads to herd immunity and is primarily among the younger people who are not seriously impacted by the virus.
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CurtOne

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« Reply #4037 on: June 29, 2020, 10:35:44 pm »
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trump has made the wearing or not of a face mask a sign of political support for him rather than an informed choice based on the science of best practices during a pandemic.
Yes, I know.  Is this really otto?  I could read it, so I'm confused.

Deeg

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« Reply #4038 on: June 29, 2020, 11:17:38 pm »
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Cases in Arizona jumped by 5.5%, above the state’s average of a 4.4% daily increase over the past week.

The current record rates of newly reported cases at 40,000 or more in recent days likely reflected a far bigger outbreak, Gottlieb said.

Some encouraging signs
By the CDC’s own reckoning, the real number of infections was 5 to 10 times that being reported, Gottlieb said, and that meant the real rate of new infections was likely to be a “quarter-million” each day.

Frieden said that while there were potentially encouraging signs in the growing share of younger people—who are less likely to suffer severe complications—among new reported cases, that shouldn’t be a reason to grow complacent.

“What starts in the young doesn’t stay in the young,” he said, since younger people, often asymptomatic, can spread the coronavirus to more-vulnerable individuals including family members and co-workers.

It was false to dismiss the recent surge in daily cases as a function of a ramping up in testing, Frieden said. A lower death rate was also potentially misleading, he said, with reported deaths likely to lag a surge in cases by about a month.

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« Reply #4039 on: June 30, 2020, 01:23:18 am »
Anyone read Ken Follett's "World Without End?  It's the second of the excellent "Pillars of the Earth" series.  It's the one the deals with the Black Death., and is based on real events.

A progressive young nun who runs the hospital at the Kingsbridge Priory wants to have everyone wear masks and frequently wash their hands with vinegar. The conservative Prior declares that this is witchcraft with no biblical basis, and must be avoided...

After the old prioress dies (of the plague, naturally) there's an election between the young progressive nun and the conservative proxy for the prior. Mask-wearing becomes a political statement, with the conservatives declaring that anyone who stands with God won't wear one.

This is 1348.
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Robb

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« Reply #4040 on: June 30, 2020, 06:31:16 pm »
So far in 2020 we've had earthquakes, pandemic, rioting, looting, mobs and threats of violence. Sure sounds to me like something I read somewhere.
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« Reply #4041 on: June 30, 2020, 08:43:38 pm »
Deaths and hospitalizations continue to go down as the virus moves to younger people.  Cases are up but that could be a good thing if it leads to herd immunity and is primarily among the younger people who are not seriously impacted by the virus.

California, Arizona and Texas have seen surges in hospitalizations and ICU admissions. Florida is no longer reporting hospitalizations or ICU admissions.  Deaths lag the longest. If any of those states have to use surge ICU capacity the fatality rate will increase, because the care isn’t as good.

Goldman Sachs put out a statement that wearing masks could prevent a 5% loss in GDP, just in case medical people saying to do it isn’t enough.
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« Reply #4042 on: June 30, 2020, 11:37:30 pm »
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will Veto the Defense Authorization Bill if the Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (of all people!) Amendment, which will lead to the renaming (plus other bad things!) of Fort Bragg, Fort Robert E. Lee, and many other Military Bases from which we won Two World Wars, is in the Bill!


Warren's amendment has bipartisan support. He's a bigot. Somehow, he still thinks defending the confederacy and appealing to racists is his path to being re-elected. He's so stupid.
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« Reply #4043 on: July 01, 2020, 02:04:14 am »
The pivot is coming, don't worry.  That's what we were promised.

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« Reply #4044 on: July 01, 2020, 08:14:15 am »
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will Veto the Defense Authorization Bill if the Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (of all people!) Amendment, which will lead to the renaming (plus other bad things!) of Fort Bragg, Fort Robert E. Lee, and many other Military Bases from which we won Two World Wars, is in the Bill!


Warren's amendment has bipartisan support. He's a bigot. Somehow, he still thinks defending the confederacy and appealing to racists is his path to being re-elected. He's so stupid.

This is who he is.  He’s in panic mode and doubling down on the themes and topics that are core to his beliefs. The question is how many of his 2016 voters are aligned with this.  Unfortunately, probably a lot. You look at this little community here and zero of the trump supporters are questioning him at all. In fact, they, too, are doubling down on him. There is no more tax cut or “booming” economy to point to. It’s all about racial politics and white supremacy and people like Robb DaveP, and the Bears guys are all in.

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« Reply #4045 on: July 01, 2020, 08:34:37 am »
A lot, but not enough to get him elected in anything remotely resembling a fair election.  That's why 55% consistently tell pollsters there's no chance they'll vote for him.

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« Reply #4046 on: July 01, 2020, 08:43:41 am »
A lot, but not enough to get him elected in anything remotely resembling a fair election.  That's why 55% consistently tell pollsters there's no chance they'll vote for him.

I don’t think he’ll win but I’m not all that reassured about the 50 million who are going to vote for this. These lunatics are a problem.

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« Reply #4049 on: July 01, 2020, 01:03:34 pm »
I don’t think he’ll win but I’m not all that reassured about the 50 million who are going to vote for this. These lunatics are a problem.

I think this is going to be the closest election to Reagan vs Mondale.