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DelMarFan

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« Reply #4050 on: July 01, 2020, 02:36:20 pm »
Getting Mondaled really isn't enough of a comeuppance for that guy.  Contracting and dying from CV-19, maybe.  Or strangled in his office by William Barr when he snaps over whatever dirt he has on him.  Or maybe a treasonous attempt to take control disputing election results.

I mean, I'll take it, of course.
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« Reply #4051 on: July 01, 2020, 04:31:59 pm »
I think this is going to be the closest election to Reagan vs Mondale. 

Not with massive voter suppression and foreign interference it won't.

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« Reply #4052 on: July 01, 2020, 04:33:06 pm »
I fear its going to be alarmingly close.

Bennett

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« Reply #4054 on: July 01, 2020, 05:11:17 pm »
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« Reply #4055 on: July 01, 2020, 05:41:23 pm »
He said it again today, lol.

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« Reply #4056 on: July 01, 2020, 05:53:05 pm »
So if this is true, it indicates that Trump regrets signing the First Step Act. I'm shocked because I've been assured by the right that his signing that bill into law is evidence Trump has done more for people of color and criminal justice reform than Obama ever did.

(They claim this despite the fact that it was truly a bipartisan bill that had no Democratic opposition and only slight Republican opposition, and it's been well-documented that Trump had to be convinced by Kushner to sign it)

https://www.axios.com/trump-kushner-second-thoughts-408d5a33-725d-442a-88e4-d6ab6742c139.html

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« Reply #4057 on: July 01, 2020, 06:53:07 pm »
The new Trump 2020 logo is - literally - the Nazi emblem with the wording changed.  Every time I think I've lost the capacity to be shocked, he shocks me again.



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« Reply #4058 on: July 01, 2020, 07:20:15 pm »
I thought that must be a hoax, but it appears to be real. I don't think it's an official logo, but the T-shirt is on sale on the front page of his campaign's official store:

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/

Even if the resemblance is completely accidental, it's not an excuse. Given the widespread perceptions that he is a bigot, the campaign should be double and triple checking every official release of any kind to make sure there is no reasonable chance that it will be misconstrued. It strains credibility to think that anyone wouldn't recognize that as similar to the emblem of the Nazi party from 1933 to 1945.

(And to be clear, I'm not arguing that it's accidental...I'm just pre-empting that excuse. After all, they already had an ad removed from Facebook (Facebook!) for using a clear Nazi symbol in the last couple of weeks. This isn't the first time something like this happened.)

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« Reply #4059 on: July 01, 2020, 07:24:49 pm »
must have taken it down... what did the shirt look like?

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« Reply #4060 on: July 01, 2020, 07:27:44 pm »
It's on there when I click it. It's called the "America First Tee" if you scroll down. It's the same America First logo picture in Deeg's post. Here's the direct link:

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/america-first-tee

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« Reply #4061 on: July 01, 2020, 07:40:40 pm »
I will say that the picture in Deeg's post (that I'm assuming came from Twitter) has the image of the eagle reversed horizontally. The official emblem appears to have the eagle looking the other way. I think that's a unnecessary alteration by whoever made the original picture that Trumpers will almost certainly latch on to. They'll argue that by using a reversed logo, Trump is actually showing he's the opposite of a Nazi.

I'm sure the campaign's real purpose is to troll people. Now that it's getting outrage, Hannity and Carlson can go on their shows and rile up Trump's base again about the "snowflakes on the left." But everyone outside his core 30% is sick of the juvenile trolling.

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« Reply #4062 on: July 01, 2020, 07:42:21 pm »
There's no way that's accidental, are you kidding?  They're just trading in the dog whistle for a megaphone.

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« Reply #4063 on: July 01, 2020, 08:30:37 pm »
I will say that the picture in Deeg's post (that I'm assuming came from Twitter) has the image of the eagle reversed horizontally. The official emblem appears to have the eagle looking the other way. I think that's a unnecessary alteration by whoever made the original picture that Trumpers will almost certainly latch on to. They'll argue that by using a reversed logo, Trump is actually showing he's the opposite of a Nazi.

I'm sure the campaign's real purpose is to troll people. Now that it's getting outrage, Hannity and Carlson can go on their shows and rile up Trump's base again about the "snowflakes on the left." But everyone outside his core 30% is sick of the juvenile trolling.

The Lincoln Project on Twitter has 3 variants of the Nazi logo. 2 with the Eagle facing right and 1 to the left. The left facing one was for the Reichsadler. The right where for the Parteiadler.  It looks like their source is Wikipedia, so mileage might vary.

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« Reply #4064 on: July 01, 2020, 08:31:29 pm »
Is that really the most important point here?  :D