Author Topic: Politics, Religion, etc.  (Read 66040 times)


brjones

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23375
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4111 on: July 08, 2020, 07:27:30 pm »
The backlog would have cleared Monday.  The fact the the positive % is going up is really bad.

Yeah...I was mainly trying to grab on to any possible excuse so I don't put too much emphasis on one day, which is the worst report we've had in several weeks. (Also, as information for anyone not looking at these numbers daily: the report lags a day, so that means yesterday's report included the backlog from Monday)

Also a bad sign...if you look at the data by state, there has been an upward trend in deaths in the big hot spots (Arizona, Texas, and Florida) for a couple of weeks. So it's pretty clear in those places that the death rate hasn't kept falling despite the surge in cases.

Deeg

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13051
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4112 on: July 08, 2020, 07:28:45 pm »
Someone has to make Brazil look good.

CUBluejays

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13494
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4113 on: July 08, 2020, 07:32:02 pm »
The phrase "crisis standard of care" is now being heard some.  It sounds like a fancy way of saying triage.

A doctor on TV this morning may have been a little overly dramatic when he said you might hear "We can't help you.  Go home to die."

Since March I have had to do a SOFA (Sequential Organ Failure Assessment ment) score plus a comorbidity score on all ICU admissions. This is what the hospital that I admit to is going to use to determine who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t in case of scarcity.  Something from Arizona was leaked that was very similar and it has the same purpose. I’d assume everybody is doing it or should be.

Playtwo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4114 on: July 08, 2020, 08:21:48 pm »
Most COVID deaths today in California since the pandemic started.

Bennett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5402
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4115 on: July 10, 2020, 10:12:07 am »
You can't make this stuff up

Quote
"Dr. Fauci is a nice man, but he's made a lot of mistakes," Trump said

Quote
Fauci last saw Trump in person at the White House on June 2, according to a report published Friday by The Financial Times after interviewing Fauci. He also said that he hasn't briefed Trump for at least two months.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-says-fauci-made-lot-mistakes-n1233402

brjones

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23375
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4116 on: July 10, 2020, 07:43:17 pm »
The guy who is constantly pretending to be the "law and order" president just commuted the sentence of his friend. And of course he does it on a Friday night because that's when he always makes his most blatantly corrupt moves.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/politics/trump-stone-prison-clemency/index.html
Like Like x 2 View List

Jack Birdbath

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2739
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4117 on: July 10, 2020, 08:25:15 pm »
This comment from Stone says it all. Trump was scared of what he might say.  I wonder what dirt Stone had on him.

@howardfineman: Just had a long talk with #RogerStone. He says he doesn’t want a pardon (which implies guilt) but a commutation, and says he thinks #Trump will give it to him. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”

brjones

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23375
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4118 on: July 10, 2020, 09:38:28 pm »
This comment from Stone says it all. Trump was scared of what he might say.  I wonder what dirt Stone had on him.

@howardfineman: Just had a long talk with #RogerStone. He says he doesn’t want a pardon (which implies guilt) but a commutation, and says he thinks #Trump will give it to him. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”

Yeah...Stone was convicted of five counts of lying to Congress, one count of witness tampering and one count of obstruction of a proceeding. So basically, he's saying he's being set free for breaking the law in the way Trump wanted him to break the law.

goblue007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2852
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4119 on: July 11, 2020, 06:50:51 am »
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281616586273468416?s=21

Curious how the career educators feel about this one.

This is wild.

Bennett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5402
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4120 on: July 11, 2020, 09:15:42 am »
Mitt Romney  @MittRomney
Unprecedented, historic corruption:  an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.
6:06 AM · Jul 11, 2020

Jack Birdbath

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2739
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4121 on: July 11, 2020, 09:23:38 am »
Robert Mueller will go down in history as one of the biggest pieces of feces ever.  He had mountains of evidence for obstruction of justice, documented it, and then did nothing about it. I know there is the DOJ “we can’t indict a president” but letting this guy run wild is way more damaging than taking the extraordinary step of indictment.  Now Trump is free to obstruct as much as he wants and our country crumbles. 

Jack Birdbath

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2739
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4122 on: July 11, 2020, 09:29:34 am »
Yeah...Stone was convicted of five counts of lying to Congress, one count of witness tampering and one count of obstruction of a proceeding. So basically, he's saying he's being set free for breaking the law in the way Trump wanted him to break the law.

I just can’t believe we live in a world where this guy openly admits he has dirt on the President and nobody seems curious what that might be or concerned that he just told us the president is dirty.  Everybody already knows it’s true but now we are making this type of thing normal. 

Bennett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5402
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4123 on: July 11, 2020, 09:48:28 am »
Still unanswered is the question "can a president pardon himself?". 

It's a safe bet that he will have no choice but to try.

Jack Birdbath

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2739
Re: Politics, Religion, etc.
« Reply #4124 on: July 11, 2020, 09:49:39 am »
When the Dems win this Nov and take the Senate and WH along with the House, they really should aggressively investigate and prosecute all these people in the current admin who are ruining this country including (especially) Trump.  The problem is that, while justified, it will just kick off an endless cycle of prosecuting political opponents regardless of the justification which is not good and another step down the path towards authoritarian rule.   There is no good answer to this - do we let this admin get away with all these crimes and normalize this behavior (or pretend like this is a one-off type thing) or do we start a new tradition of jailing the outgoing admin? Either way, we are in a bad spot and avoiding it will require threading the world’s smallest needle and hope that the next several admins are honest and not in it for the power and their own interests.
Like Like x 1 View List