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« Reply #4320 on: July 31, 2020, 08:49:07 am »
Texas and GA are suddenly in play... he has to shore up places he shouldnt have to campaign in. He's pouring cash into FL

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« Reply #4321 on: August 01, 2020, 01:33:20 pm »
'Nobody likes me,' Trump complains, as even his allies fade

LOL  Sorry, that just makes me laugh.  I don't think it's beyond belief that he will resign soon to avoid a crushing defeat in November.
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« Reply #4322 on: August 01, 2020, 01:39:58 pm »
'Nobody likes me,' Trump complains, as even his allies fade

LOL  Sorry, that just makes me laugh.  I don't think it's beyond belief that he will resign soon to avoid a crushing defeat in November.

He’s not resigning unless he gets some sort of prosecution immunity from New York.  Looks like he’s only kicking the can down the road for a few more months but the chance of four more years of immunity is worth the risk of the humiliating defeat.

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« Reply #4323 on: August 01, 2020, 01:57:11 pm »
What if he struck a deal with Pence for a pardon?

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« Reply #4324 on: August 01, 2020, 02:00:13 pm »
Federal pardons do not apply to state crimes.

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« Reply #4325 on: August 01, 2020, 03:20:57 pm »
As good as things look right now for a clear (hopefully overwhelming) defeat for Trump, no one should be too confident even at this relatively late date. There are still three months left and Trump and Barr (as well as some governors and state legislatures) have demonstrated that there is virtually nothing they would not do to suppress voting.  And with the pandemic likely to be full swing and the mail issues that are being created or exacerbated by Trump, it could hold down the vote against Trump. And then of course there is the potential for Russian interference, perhaps even in the actual voting or vote tabulation.

Those of us who realize that our very democracy is at stake must do everything we can to make sure that Trump is so soundly defeated that no level of voter suppression or other mischief can prevent him from being defeated. Years ago I was very, very active in electoral politics but vowed to myself that I had retired from that and would let others carry the ball going forward. But I cannot do that this election. I am going to do as much phone banking into Wisconsin, as well as Iowa and/or Michigan as I can, as well as donating money. Personally, I wont' be satisfied with a mere loss, I want Trump (and his minions) to be humiliated in November.

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« Reply #4326 on: August 01, 2020, 03:36:49 pm »
I’ve never donated to a politician, but I’m awfully close to giving money to Biden. I can’t stand what the Republican Party has become and I hope the experience an overwhelming defeat that sends them back to the drawing board about what the party should be for.

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« Reply #4327 on: August 01, 2020, 03:46:33 pm »
I’ve never donated to a politician, but I’m awfully close to giving money to Biden. I can’t stand what the Republican Party has become and I hope the experience an overwhelming defeat that sends them back to the drawing board about what the party should be for.

This didn’t happen overnight so Im skeptical that change will happen quickly. But I hope the defeat is so overwhelming that a reckoning comes.

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« Reply #4328 on: August 01, 2020, 04:37:09 pm »
I’ve never donated to a politician, but I’m awfully close to giving money to Biden. I can’t stand what the Republican Party has become and I hope the experience an overwhelming defeat that sends them back to the drawing board about what the party should be for.
This didn’t happen overnight so Im skeptical that change will happen quickly. But I hope the defeat is so overwhelming that a reckoning comes.
I was not a fan of George H.W. Bush and certainly not of Reagan. But the video that I'm about to post provides a reminder of just how low the current Republican Party has sunk since those guys were representative of the party.

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« Reply #4329 on: August 01, 2020, 04:37:37 pm »
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« Reply #4330 on: August 01, 2020, 04:40:43 pm »
And I will add that whatever philosophical or policy difference we may have, I have a lot of respect for The Lincoln Project and other never-Trumpers who have dedicated themselves to removing this horrid human being from office. And even more credit to the ones who want to blow up the current Republican Party for what it has become.  Bravo!
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« Reply #4331 on: August 01, 2020, 04:54:04 pm »
I was about to plug the Lincoln Project, but Ron beat me to it.  They're looking to defeat not just Trump but Trumpism, so they're not letting the gutless Republican senator weasels off the hook.
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« Reply #4332 on: August 01, 2020, 05:50:48 pm »
Latest poll national poll (Emerson) has Trump training by only 4 points.  That's basically even in my book.

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« Reply #4333 on: August 01, 2020, 05:58:59 pm »
I was about to plug the Lincoln Project, but Ron beat me to it.  They're looking to defeat not just Trump but Trumpism, so they're not letting the gutless Republican senator weasels off the hook.

Add representative Jim Jordan of Ohio to the list


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« Reply #4334 on: August 01, 2020, 06:45:19 pm »
Latest poll national poll (Emerson) has Trump training by only 4 points.  That's basically even in my book.

Never a good idea to focus on any single poll. The fivethirtyeight.com polling average has Biden ahead by 8.2 points.