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« Reply #5550 on: November 23, 2020, 08:48:40 am »
I'd rate the chance that they don't approve the vaccines at <5%.

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« Reply #5551 on: November 23, 2020, 01:00:49 pm »
3rd major COVID-19 vaccine shown to be effective and cheaper

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The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine was 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in one of the dosing regimens tested; it was less effective in another. Earlier this month, rival drugmakers Pfizer and Moderna reported preliminary results from late-stage trials showing their vaccines were almost 95% effective.

While the AstraZeneca vaccine can be stored at 2 degrees to 8 degrees Celsius (36 degrees to 46 degrees Fahrenheit), the Pfizer and Moderna products must be stored at temperatures approaching minus-70 degrees Celsius (minus-94 Fahrenheit).

According to CNN, the effectiveness was raised from 70% to 90% by decreasing the amount of the first dose and increasing the amount of the second dose

https://apnews.com/article/astrazeneca-vaccine-third-cheaper-oxford-c99d26eb2946f6fde45a1edc002ff028
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« Reply #5552 on: November 23, 2020, 01:16:52 pm »
Moderna's vaccine can be stored at a similar temperature to the AZ vaccine.  Only Pfizer needs ultra cold storage.

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« Reply #5553 on: November 23, 2020, 04:48:33 pm »
A lot of things Donald Trump has said and done since he took office fall into the category of “that’s never going to happen”.  Yet he continues to surprise us with his audacity and they do happen.

I sincerely hope this is not another such item:  “I’ll allow those vaccines to proceed only if I get a second term.”

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« Reply #5554 on: November 23, 2020, 04:56:39 pm »
Worst he could do is delay it until Biden takes office. It might actually get Republicans to stand up against him.
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« Reply #5555 on: November 23, 2020, 05:18:44 pm »
GSA director Gina Gilliam has finally sent a letter to Joe Biden indicating that the transition can now begin.  She has also stated that she was not part of any delay.

Funny how all of this happens shortly after Michigan certifies their election results.

 

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« Reply #5556 on: November 23, 2020, 05:21:19 pm »
Worst he could do is delay it until Biden takes office. It might actually get Republicans to stand up against him.

That's true.  But Trump is just irrational enough to try.

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« Reply #5557 on: November 23, 2020, 06:31:36 pm »
GSA director Gina Gilliam has finally sent a letter to Joe Biden indicating that the transition can now begin.  She has also stated that she was not part of any delay.

Funny how all of this happens shortly after Michigan certifies their election results.

 

I assume you meant Emily Murphy.  In her whiny and entitled letter she says she reached all her decisions "independently".  Meanwhile Trump tweeted a few minutes later that he's directing her actions, and it was reported that a White House counsel composed the letter she released.

Murphy's please for sympathy are truly nauseating.  No one should get any special commendation for doing their constitutionally-mandated job, much less two weeks late.  She's been in violation of the law and more Americans will die as a result of the delays in formally beginning the transition.
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« Reply #5559 on: November 30, 2020, 11:06:28 am »
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While I agree that the Biden Administration needs to articulate an economic message to rural red state voters, I just don't think their looking for one. Trump's America first message was less about economic measures than it was about protecting outdated immoral racial privilege's and stopping the Democratic advantages in diversity, diploma's and density.

Just look at the state of Georgia and how it's politics has changed so much in the past 4 years. I also offer the article below.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/29/gop-party-that-cannot-change/
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« Reply #5560 on: November 30, 2020, 05:30:03 pm »
Funny how you see no stories about how the R leadership needs to figure out how to speak to Biden voters, of which there are almost 8 million more than there are Trump voters.

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« Reply #5561 on: November 30, 2020, 05:38:37 pm »
Funny how you see no stories about how the R leadership needs to figure out how to speak to Biden voters, of which there are almost 8 million more than there are Trump voters.
  Actually, the point I was going to make was that Democrats see the need to reach out to rural voters, while the Republicans are sitting around griping instead of looking to appeal to city voters.

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« Reply #5562 on: November 30, 2020, 06:36:08 pm »
That was a general observation, not a disagreement with you.


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« Reply #5564 on: November 30, 2020, 07:52:51 pm »
The shlt is about to hit the fan.  The defense secretary has been fired, and they've just started building a defensive barricade around the White House.  People need to start taking this seriously - these are not normal times.

I think there’s a very specific progression to this.  Start with vote suppression and intimidation.  Then lawsuits.  Then rogue electoral slates.  And if none of that works, martial law and termination of democracy.

I’ve been saying all along it’s going to come down to what the generals decide to do when the chips are down.  Nothing I’m seeing now makes me think I was wrong.

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« Reply #5362 on: November 10, 2020, 06:43:38 pm »
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Current R's can no longer be trusted to have an appropriate "line" they will not allow Trump to cost. We are loooooooooong past that. Further, many of them seem happy to use Trump as their unwitting "muscle" in an attempt to maintain power as long as possible (McConnell, etc.) In this environment, my concern is that the longer Trump's abuses and lies are validated by R silence, the more likely it is for his cultish base to engage in coordinated violent activity. Just last month, there was a credible threat to a governor's life, and that was simply about state shutdowns. What are "militias" going to do if/when they are fully convinced the election is being stolen from Trump? If that's not cause for an armed uprising to that demographic, I don't know what is.

Further, while I don't believe we'll see full-blown military support of any Trump coup attempt, the truth is there are members of our armed forces who believe his nonsense, too. As Trump has found enablers to serve in so many senior administration roles, who is to say there aren't senior level military officials who believe Trump's lies and see it as their ultimate patriotic duty to "save the republic" by standing up to the D attempt to "steal the election"?
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What do you guys think now??

The military coup stuff seems pretty silly now, right?   As does notion that Rs in election process have no line not willing to cross. 

What has happened is that folks, even Rs, took their jobs seriously in the election process.  And the courts worked.  The free press worked. The opposition party forcefully opposed the Trump shenanigans.  Even Trump's lawyers with reputations dropped out. Giuliani and his ilk have been exposed as clowns.  Military is waiting patiently for a new commander in chief.

Biden will be inaugurated on January 20.

Then there will be the usual and expected partisan fights. 

Instead of posting alarmist nonsense, consider doing something constructive if you so choose.
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