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ticohans

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« Reply #6000 on: April 13, 2021, 02:11:17 pm »
It's newer vaccine technology.

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« Reply #6001 on: April 13, 2021, 02:12:53 pm »
That's a good thing.  I would expect fewer technology-related side effects with an RNA vaccine as compared to an adenovirus vector-based vaccine.

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« Reply #6002 on: April 13, 2021, 02:32:22 pm »
Cause people don't remember or didn't take high school biology and have no clue what mRNA is or dose.  It just sounds scary and they think it will rewrite their DNA and make them a lizard or something.  I literally just drew a picture to try and describe how it works and how it won't rewrite their DNA for a patient.  No clue if she'll get it or not.

ticohans

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« Reply #6003 on: April 13, 2021, 02:32:46 pm »
Agreed, P2. That said, for the population that is vaccine-hesitant, their reasons for being vaccine-hesitant are unlikely to cause them to be favorable to new technology.

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« Reply #6004 on: April 13, 2021, 02:32:54 pm »
Cause people don't remember or didn't take high school biology and have no clue what mRNA is or does.  It just sounds scary and they think it will rewrite their DNA and make them a lizard or something.  I literally just drew a picture to try and describe how it works and how it won't rewrite their DNA for a patient.  No clue if she'll get it or not.

ticohans

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« Reply #6005 on: April 13, 2021, 02:35:33 pm »
Here CBJ, maybe this will work for your patients:

https://t.co/jEZGvF5m3Z?amp=1

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« Reply #6006 on: April 13, 2021, 02:35:36 pm »
Cause people don't remember or didn't take high school biology and have no clue what mRNA is or dose.  It just sounds scary and they think it will rewrite their DNA and make them a lizard or something.  I literally just drew a picture to try and describe how it works and how it won't rewrite their DNA for a patient.  No clue if she'll get it or not.

Wait, it doesn't turn you into a lizard???  *Mind blown*

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« Reply #6007 on: April 13, 2021, 02:42:41 pm »
Agreed, P2. That said, for the population that is vaccine-hesitant, their reasons for being vaccine-hesitant are unlikely to cause them to be favorable to new technology.

Yeah, this is the issue. It's easy for anti-vaxxers to scare people by saying "we have no idea what the long term side effects are" or "this technology is going to cause your immune system to turn on itself." It's harder to do that when it uses more traditional (and therefore less scary) technology.

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« Reply #6008 on: April 13, 2021, 03:23:02 pm »
That seems like more of an indictment of Chicago than of Sogard.

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Here CBJ, maybe this will work for your patients:

https://t.co/jEZGvF5m3Z?amp=1


I've seen that before, so good. 

Wait, it doesn't turn you into a lizard???  *Mind blown*

So there is the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) anyone can make a report and what a vaccine might or might not have caused.  It is basically a collection tool for looking for worrying signals that a vaccine might be causing and if it needs to be investigated further.  Anti-vaxxers like to site as a collection of things that viruses have caused, back in the 2000's a doctor got to sick of he reported that the flu vaccine caused him to turn into the Incredible Hulk and the government had to report it and it was listed until the he signed a form saying they could take it down.

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« Reply #6009 on: April 13, 2021, 05:25:33 pm »
Both the fact that it’s been halted and the media coverage are absolutely appalling.  People will die because of this stupidity.

It irks me that there are so many people refusing to be vaccinated and spoiled for choice with vaccines, and I’m desperate for it and likely won’t get the chance until December if I’m lucky.  What a difference having a competent government.

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« Reply #6010 on: April 13, 2021, 09:00:30 pm »
Just got home from Kroger, and they made announcements twice while I was there for shoppers to come to the in-store clinic and get a Covid vaccine...
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« Reply #6011 on: April 15, 2021, 08:25:01 am »
ACIP is pushing JNJ vaccine out 1 week. They are looking to see if more cases will get reported with additional attention. The options will be pulling the vaccine, limiting the use or unrestricted access. Just from reading tea leaves in the meeting my guess is the pull vaccine or limit the use to where 2 shots would be difficult to give. There are enough Pfizer/Moderna doses for everyone.

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« Reply #6012 on: April 15, 2021, 05:24:32 pm »
Over 24 hours since my vaccine and I havent felt a thing.

Not even a sore shoulder really.
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« Reply #6013 on: April 15, 2021, 05:59:37 pm »
Over 24 hours since my vaccine and I havent felt a thing.

Not even a sore shoulder really.
  Dusty, that's bad.  If you don't feel anything, you're either paralyzed or dead.
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« Reply #6014 on: April 15, 2021, 08:01:57 pm »
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/reduced-covid-19-risk-healthcare-workers-after-vaccines-real-world-evidence/

Discusses three studies with how effective the vaccine is in health care workers. The answer is really freaking effective.
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