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« Reply #4080 on: July 06, 2020, 01:19:45 pm »
This is an interesting update From Sweden.

A couple of things they found in the data.

Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general population of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride to work. The risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not taken into account.

The median age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years (e.g. 86 years in Sweden) and only about 4% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality.

In many countries, up to two thirds of all extra deaths occurred in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown. Moreover, in many cases it is not clear whether these people really died from Covid19 or from weeks of extreme stress and isolation.
Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital.

Even in so-called “Covid19 deaths” it is often not clear whether they died from or with coronavirus (i.e. from underlying diseases) or if they were counted as “presumed cases” and not tested at all. However, official figures usually do not reflect this distinction.
Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 turned out to be false: many of these young people either did not die from Covid19, they had already been seriously ill (e.g. from undiagnosed leukaemia), or they were in fact 109 instead of 9 years old. The claimed increase in Kawasaki disease in children also turned out to be false.

Countries without curfews and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea, Belarus or Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. Sweden was even praised by the WHO and now benefits from higher immunity compared to lockdown countries.
The fear of a shortage of ventilators was unjustified. According to lung specialists, the invasive ventilation (intubation) of Covid19 patients, which is partly done out of fear of spreading the virus, is in fact often counterproductive and damaging to the lungs.

Numerous internationally renowned experts in the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology consider the measures taken to be counterproductive and recommend rapid natural immunisation of the general population and protection of risk groups.

All of these findings are referenced at the link. It is hard for people to know what to believe when there are reputable sources on both sides saying the exact opposite. Would be nice if this weren't political. I played golf with my doctor Friday and he spent most of the round talking about the faults with what the media is reporting and what is being done to treat it. I am sure there is something of a confirmation bias going on with people on the right and left. In the middle are those being hurt by misinformation from both ends. This is where a truly unbiased media would be nice to have, even crucial. But because half the country, at least, doesn't trust them to research and report the facts without a slant, people are ignoring what they are telling us, and chaos ensues.

Despite your expressed desire to find an unbiased news source, you did exactly the opposite when you cited the "Swiss Policy Research" cite. It has a reputation for being unreliable:
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