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Consider Rubio's abortion position to be the similar to the pro-choice position.  He is personally opposed to exceptions, but as a matter of law he isn't going to do anything to to enact it because that isn't supported by many Americans.  It would be where I am as well.

I think the problem with Rubio's position is that more and more Republicans are against exceptions for **** and incest.  Paul Ryan is against exceptions.  Ted Cruz is against them.  Rand Paul is against them. 

The activists are pushing Republicans too far to the right on the issue, and if enough of them are taking that position and have expressed opposition against exceptions when running for office, it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would feel compelled to pass a bill with no exceptions that a President Rubio would feel compelled to sign. 

That of course being if the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade or if a Republican controlled congress and a Republican president wanted to pass a strong piece of legislation that would allow them to challenge Roe vs. Wade.

Trump can't win a general election.

Actually, I wouldn't underestimate Trump's chances of winning the general election if he's nominated, and Hillary and the Dems would be making a big mistake if they did.  His chances of winning the nomination were already underestimated enough as it was, in spite of all the crazy things he's said and done already.

There might be enough independents who are nodding their heads at all the crazy things Trump is saying.  There might be enough "anybody but Hillary/Bernie" voters who will hold their noses and vote for him.  There might be enough people who simply think he's the lesser of two evils in the general election or that his business experience trumps (sorry) some of the extreme rhetoric he's spewed.  The young people who showed up to vote for Obama probably aren't going to do the same for Hillary, especially if those young voters wind up thinking Bernie got a raw deal in the nominating process.  He might have an outside chance of winning 20-30% of the African American vote since he's not a traditional Republican, and if he does that, he's going to have a big leg up on Hillary. 

Nobody's really been able to figure out Trump's appeal yet, and we might find out that it extends a lot further than just people showing up for Republican primaries for the first time to vote for him.

If only we get a few more years of the 1990's economy, too....

And I don't mean Cruz.

I'll go with the guy who sticks to principle and doesn't pander for votes.

So you don't support Hillary?  Or is "guy" generic?

The abortion issue is a good example of the "slippery slopism" prominent in both parties.   Republicans resist issues of gun control because it's a slippery slope to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment; Democrats resist limiting abortion because it's a slippery slope to eroding the woman's right to choose.   The whole "**** and incest" issue is the red herring because if any kind of compromise can ever be reached it means giving up something.  By giving up opposing "**** and incest" can end abortion on demand, Republicans will do it.   It's an attempt to get wiggle room in the negotiations.

"Republicans resist issues of gun control because it's a slippery slope to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment..."

I think Republican (or moderate Democrat) resistance to gun control has little to do with the proverbial slippery slope.  Much more to do with getting on the NRA's hit list.

How absurdly reductionist of you. Our current system does this already, and basically any viable candidate supports a progressive tax system.

So the fact that something is done makes it either right, or at least acceptable?

I assume then that you support legalizing ****.  That also happens with great frequency.