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JR

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« Reply #450 on: March 01, 2016, 09:03:52 pm »
Although I guess on the flip side, I'm living in one of those states, haha.

I badly wanted to vote for Kasich today, but I knew it would be a wasted vote.  I wound up voting for Rubio, although not with a great deal of enthusiasm.

What might even be sadder about tonight than Trump sweeping Super Tuesday is that it looks like Cruz is going to win two states to Rubio's zero.  Cruz to me is pretty much as bad as Trump, but he's now going to have more of a case to call on Rubio to quit the race after tonight than Rubio will against Cruz.

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« Reply #451 on: March 01, 2016, 09:11:30 pm »
I know who both are, but then again, I was from louisiana. Duke versus Edwards was in my mid teens when I was a lot more interested in politics.  Talk about ashamed to even pick a side.

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« Reply #452 on: March 01, 2016, 09:30:47 pm »
Baseball related politics tweet...

Craig Calcaterra ‏@craigcalcaterra 
The Rubio love from conservatives is quickly becoming "sure, the Royals won the Series, but the Cards are the better team!" stuff.

Jes Beard

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« Reply #453 on: March 01, 2016, 10:19:51 pm »
Where do you live? 1933 Germany?

Central eastern Tennessee.

Same difference.

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« Reply #454 on: March 01, 2016, 10:21:48 pm »
ruz to me is pretty much as bad as Trump

How?

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« Reply #455 on: March 02, 2016, 06:52:18 am »
How?

Cruz has proven himself as a hardline ideologue who thinks what Washington needs is someone who will draw a line in the sand, dig in his heels, and demand his way or the highway even more than what we've already had for the last decade.  In my opinion, he's MORE dangerous than Trump.

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« Reply #456 on: March 02, 2016, 07:03:00 am »
Cruz has proven himself as a hardline ideologue who thinks what Washington needs is someone who will draw a line in the sand, dig in his heels, and demand his way or the highway even more than what we've already had for the last decade.  In my opinion, he's MORE dangerous than Trump.

Ah.... in other words he takes positions based on principles.

I can understand how some people don't like that.

Of course the failure of those in Congress to do that is what has given rise to Trump, but then you have already said you would prefer Trump.  Not surprising.

But which of Cruz's "hardline ideolog(ical)" positions is it that you find so troublesome?

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« Reply #457 on: March 02, 2016, 07:03:50 am »
When the final 5 are Sanders, Clinton, Trump, Rubio and Cruz you know this country just simply doesn't care any more.  Obama ushered in the celebrity president, which is why Trump is doing so well.  Trump doesn't even have to study the issues, he just tells us how great everything is going to be and the shills believe him because he fired people on Apprentice.  What is your stance on North Korea?  "We're going to have a great foreign policy, it will be beautiful, you won't even believe it."  What is your stance on the EU and bailing out failing members?  "The EU will love me, I do very well with the EU, we're going to have a great relationship with the EU."  What should we do in about Putin and Russia?  "Putin likes me, I do very well with the Russian people.  Have you seen my numbers there?  We're going to have a great relationship with Russia."  About the only policies he has espoused so far are kicking illegals out and starting a trade war with China and possibly Mexico.  Trump is so bad i could almost vote for Hillary.  Almost.

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« Reply #458 on: March 02, 2016, 07:20:16 am »
When the final 5 are Sanders, Clinton, Trump, Rubio and Cruz you know this country just simply doesn't care any more.  Obama ushered in the celebrity president, which is why Trump is doing so well.  Trump doesn't even have to study the issues, he just tells us how great everything is going to be and the shills believe him because he fired people on Apprentice.  What is your stance on North Korea?  "We're going to have a great foreign policy, it will be beautiful, you won't even believe it."  What is your stance on the EU and bailing out failing members?  "The EU will love me, I do very well with the EU, we're going to have a great relationship with the EU."  What should we do in about Putin and Russia?  "Putin likes me, I do very well with the Russian people.  Have you seen my numbers there?  We're going to have a great relationship with Russia."  About the only policies he has espoused so far are kicking illegals out and starting a trade war with China and possibly Mexico.  Trump is so bad i could almost vote for Hillary.  Almost.

Hit the nail on the head there.

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« Reply #459 on: March 02, 2016, 07:22:20 am »
I'm not particularly fond of Hillary.  But I don't understand why intelligent, thoughtful people would prefer Trump to Hillary.

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« Reply #460 on: March 02, 2016, 07:28:50 am »
Ah.... in other words he takes positions based on principles.

I can understand how some people don't like that.

Of course the failure of those in Congress to do that is what has given rise to Trump, but then you have already said you would prefer Trump.  Not surprising.

But which of Cruz's "hardline ideolog(ical)" positions is it that you find so troublesome?

Correct.  I think Trump is the 2nd worst of the 5 remaining likely candidates. 

You think the Congress has failed to take positions on principles?  That's why Congress has wasted their time by voting to repeal the Affordable Care Act over 60 times?

It's okay to have a position based on principles (even if they're principles I don't agree with), but Cruz has been among the leaders igniting the vitriol in 21st century politics.  Now we're at the point where the Senate is publicly refusing to do their job and even consider confirming a Supreme Court justice because we'll have a new president in 11 months.

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« Reply #461 on: March 02, 2016, 07:29:49 am »
I'm not particularly fond of Hillary.  But I don't understand why intelligent, thoughtful people would prefer Trump to Hillary.

I have a college-educated friend whose favorite candidate is Trump.  It blows my mind.

I'd prefer Kasich out of the current lot, but I realize his chances are pretty slim.

JR

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« Reply #462 on: March 02, 2016, 07:32:09 am »
I'm not particularly fond of Hillary.  But I don't understand why intelligent, thoughtful people would prefer Trump to Hillary.

I don't, and Hillary would actually have a chance to convince me to vote for her in the general over Trump.

More than likely, though, I'll just find a third party candidate I can support with a protest vote.

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« Reply #463 on: March 02, 2016, 08:10:43 am »

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« Reply #464 on: March 02, 2016, 09:15:26 am »
Correct.  I think Trump is the 2nd worst of the 5 remaining likely candidates. 

You think the Congress has failed to take positions on principles?  That's why Congress has wasted their time by voting to repeal the Affordable Care Act over 60 times?

Voting for repeal of Obamacare is meaningless, since they know that the President would never sign such a bill.  But they could merely have passed spending bills that defund Obamacare, but have not had the nerve to do so.  The bills they have passed were meaningless on the face of it, and were merely a method of gaining votes for reelection.